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WarrenM969
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WarrenM969,
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11/4/2013 | 9:12:54 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Well, if true, your story would certainly be a scoop, since absolutely no one is reporting these kind of numbers. The Federal PPACA site got 5 million visitors on the first day, and presumably many more since. 21% would limply that millions have enrolled, which really goes against everything anyone is hearing.

By the way, most of the state enrollments are into Medicare, rather than into a health plan, so be careful how you write about those numbers.
WarrenM969
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WarrenM969,
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11/4/2013 | 9:39:36 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Another reason to be skeptical -- A 21% sales conversion rate would be great for Amazon or eBay, much less for a high dollar insurance product.
WarrenM969
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11/4/2013 | 9:42:48 PM
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My guess is that 21% successfully created a user account and called this "enrolled"
UberGoober
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11/4/2013 | 10:41:15 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Gee, 5 million visitors the first day, 6 (that's 6, not 6 million) actually enrolled. Healthcare.gov math is haaaard! Somehow, to them .00012% equals 21%. Oh, well, 0 doesn't mean anything, and everybody transposes a digit occasionally.

Seriously, what level of gullibility does it take to publish this story?
TerryB
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11/5/2013 | 6:21:27 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
You guys need to read better. The 21% is from the 680 people they polled. I visited the site to look at it, had no intention of enrolling because I have health insurance though work. So you can't extrapolate the 21% across all site visits.
Still waiting for all the people complaining about Obamacare to come up a better plan. Doing nothing, leaving me and other taxpayers paying for uninsured sick people showing up at hospital, is not a plan.
This is not a free market solvable problem. Nobody wants to spend ANYTHING on health care unless they are sick, there is nothing fun about getting that service. And no one but the very richest people can afford to pay for any significant health care episode, leaving no choice but to have insurance. Insurance companies aren't in business to heal as many people as possible, they simply want to take in premiums without paying back out, that's how they make money. And that's all they care about in a free market, or should care about. So Obamacare, even with all it's current flaws, was at least an effort to address this. So can everyone quit whining, make all the improvements we can to the current law over time, and move on. The failure of a website has nothing to do with the big picture of why Obamacare is here.
UberGoober
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11/5/2013 | 6:49:40 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Sorry, Terry, wrong on two fronts.

First, With the tiny enrollment numbers, there's absolutely no way they have a 21% enrollment rate. Not in anyone's wildest dreams. The study is obviously seriously flawed, and no amount of willing suspension of disbelief will get you past that if you have even a few brain cells sparking together.

Second, it is a typical liberal stance that 'something has to be done by the gubmint.' Some arbitrary something is seldom better than nothing, and this particular something is about as likely to work as Soviet Communism. Neither took into account human nature. What we're going to see is a government funded death spiral. There are potential solutions, but this was never going to be one.

But hey, you can keep your insurance if you like it. Period. Maybe. Til next year. If Barry likes it.
GAProgrammer
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11/5/2013 | 7:53:58 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Except that it was reported today that well of 50% of Americans are being forced to change their provider because of the way it was written. Otherwise, spot on Goober!
kkinnison
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11/5/2013 | 8:39:42 PM
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Not provider, plan. And in general, that plan had to be improved to have the min coverage.
Turns out about 60% of american's change their plan every year anyway, so it's hard to extrapolate useful numbers.
Regarding the post? It's suspect, 670 is too small a polling group, and even the most lefty shouldn't buy a 21% conversion rate. I'd expect a much lower rate purely due to window shopping.
JEngdahlJ
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11/5/2013 | 2:35:27 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
Insurers selling qualified health plans on the exchanges must assess their ability to reach their target markets. http://www.healthcaretownhall....
Ken Terry
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11/6/2013 | 7:19:26 PM
re: 21% Of Obamacare Visitors Have Enrolled
The Commonwealth Fund, a respected research organization, asked whether people who visited the "marketplaces" had enrolled on websites, by email, by phone or in person. So it wasn't all about the websites. Also, the state exchange sites worked much better than healthcare.gov. So I don't think it's strange to find that 20% managed to enroll (although I think that some people confused enrollment with starting an application, which is something else).
MyW0r1d
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11/7/2013 | 10:32:19 PM
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The Commonwealth Fund seems to be everything but the balanced voice some would like to accredit to it. The topics they choose to publish on and the venues they speak at can attest to their supporters and may explain the numbers they produce. Any statistics or polls to me are dubious without full transparency on the characteristics of their sample.
David F. Carr
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11/7/2013 | 3:42:15 PM
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The successes seem to be largely related to the states that did not rely on Healthcare.gov.
KennethK239
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11/7/2013 | 8:00:00 PM
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Tennesee and etc that actually setup their own exchange?


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