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SAuge
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4/16/2013 | 6:09:32 PM
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This has been going on for twenty years... so nothing has really changed except less teens going into IT.
ANON1250703092871
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4/16/2013 | 6:05:12 PM
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Big Business problem is it can only see the cheap way out. How about training workers, work with local schools. Let's keep the jobs and money in the USofA.
KawiMan
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4/16/2013 | 5:55:18 PM
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The corporate world lamenting the so called, shortage of qualified IT workers in the US is ludicrous. Like what has been already stated by Deidre Blake it's " Modern indentured servitude" or "White Collar Slavery".

When I worked at Countrywide in their IT groups, there was a 3+ year period where I was the only American in the group. The rest were primarily from India. They were obligated to stay with Countrywide for a lengthy number of years before they were able to acquire permanent resident alien status.

There are many American IT workers out of work. Our workers need to be employed here first before accessing the pool of H1-B workers!

This is just one of the symptoms of the greed of Corporate America executives. They have no problem replacing American workers with cheaper H1-B labor to pad their profits and bonuses.
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4/16/2013 | 3:51:12 PM
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I think that Michael Fitzgerald may be trivializing or making light of some very serious issues, and perhaps downplaying the extent of it. For example, he didn't include L-1 numbers in the totals. That's OK because I think we have enough to agree upon here than to disagree about.

I agree strongly with his final thoughts:

"The H-1b isn't supposed to aim at our wallets, except by boosting our collective brainpower. That's gone off track. Let's make sure we change the H-1B so it's no longer the outsourcing visa, but the innovation visa."

It is off track. It may debatable as to how far off, but at least we can agree that it is off track. The solution to this problem can be accomplished by doing two very basic things.

First, require that workers be paid in the 75th percentile across their occupation/region. A large number of workers are currently paid closer to the 25th percentile.

Second, allow workers full control of their visas so that employers don't have that as leverage over them, and don't allow changing jobs to negatively impact any pending permanent immigration process.

If you do those things we have some assurance that the program isn't being used to flood the market with cheap labor. We price out the body shops. Americans may finally see their salaries rise instead of fall, and employers would have no trouble filling true shortages.

I was warned not to say this because it could be taken out of context, but if we had those protections we could live without the cap. The cap probably would never be hit anyways because the biggest demand is for low cost labor.
Donna Conroy
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4/16/2013 | 3:33:04 PM
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Michael, good analysis. However, you miss the main issue in tech: a corporate culture of employment discrimination based on age, gender, race, and national origin. Visa programs give legal cover to discriminate based on national origin. This is what Bright Future Jobs wants to fix.

Another secret that Stockman, from the Boston Globe, covered is the high levels of unemployment among visa holders. In a report I authored, 20% of want ads targeted to foreign students or H1-b holders did not even offer jobs but promised helping getting a job.

Legal means of avoiding hiring local talent is an open invitation to trafficking unemployed visa holders. Many Indian bodyshops, which are really American staffing agencies, have enthusiastically RSVP'd by warehousing unemployed visa holders in their company owned guest houses that are really little more than unemployed camps.

Donna Conroy, Director
Bright Future Jobs
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4/16/2013 | 3:06:43 PM
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The H-1B visa allows employers to reduce labor costs, at the expense of US workers, in many ways besides direct labor costs of the H-1B visa recipient.

Microsoft, Google, and Intel hire H-1B visa recipients, especially Indian H-1B visa recipients because it builds a line of communication with workers back in India. It is my understanding that Microsoft's India programmers are paid $7/hour. Hiring India H-1B visa recipients helps Microsoft move more and more business units to India after dismantling that business unit here in the US.

Over the past ten years, Microsoft has been laying off thousands of US workers and backfilling the jobs left emptied with H-1B visa recipients, especially Indian H-1B visa recipients.
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4/16/2013 | 3:02:01 PM
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"One obvious potential reason to hire H-1B workers is that they are chained to their sponsoring company." Modern indentured servitude.
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