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braya
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3/11/2013 | 4:13:31 PM
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First, define American.

Second, the above-mentioned factors are not valid barometers for a foreign I.T.'s talent. Not even close.

Lastly, the Americans you are referring to are the same Americans that brought this country to its current state. Reason? GREED.
braya
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3/11/2013 | 4:09:51 PM
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Since it is the U.S. GOVERNMENT that allowed H-1B for for Highly Skilled Specialty Occupations, I think the burden of proof to show evidence that there is no shortage in I.T. talents in the U.S. are on the individuals against it.
twins.fan
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3/9/2013 | 11:00:10 PM
re: H-1B Workers Not Best Or Brightest, Study Says
The US graduates three college grads with a STEM degree for every job that Corporate America creates. There is no shortage of STEM grads.
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3/9/2013 | 10:57:51 PM
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There is no shortage of US STEM workers. The H-1B visa is being used to reduce labor costs, creating hundreds of thousands of disenfranchised US STEM workers.

Victims of injustice speak up and fight back in America. Learn to live with it!
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3/9/2013 | 5:17:28 AM
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"It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself."
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3/8/2013 | 4:40:01 PM
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LetG«÷s be realistic folks.. In the real world, there is no longer such no such thing as G«£For AmericaG«•. It is G«£For the money.G«•, suits, wallstreet, globalization. The Geek just became like Gordon Gekko. Hey, I am just being a realist. Who invented this by the way? I thought soG«™

If you are still hopeful, then good for you but let me tell you, itG«÷s going to be a steep climb to Everest. Going against the tide of money is just like trying to go through a brick wall. Good Luck on that!

In the meantime, stop the whining and do something for yourselves be it in I.T. or in other fields because the angst and whining is a total giveaway for hang ups & frustrations.

It is America Inc. period, learn to live with it!
braya
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3/7/2013 | 7:20:58 PM
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if you mean by 3rd world countries is Asia. let me remind you that Japan & Korea, kicked U.S. butt in other fields of technology and invented state of the art, cutting edge technology on their own from cars to gadgets without any word of english in production.

enough said.
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3/7/2013 | 7:16:52 PM
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that's right! however, when you guys came up with a product or concept the suits played in wallstreet and found ways & means to profit more. enter, outsourcing/offshoring.

who stands to gain? the suits with higher profits & the consumers with cheaper products and services. maybe, inferior but it works and what the consumers don't know won't kill them. at the end of the day it is business as usual and capitalism wins. so what are we really discussing or whining about?

what the suits did was to get the best & the brightest among you to babysit 3rd world programmers.
braya
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3/7/2013 | 7:12:17 PM
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it's career mismatch. supply & demand.

currently how much I.T. talents are there? how much is the need? how many I.T. grads annually?

figures please..
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3/6/2013 | 8:39:54 PM
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Hi Andrew,

There are still plenty of Americans who are interested in science and engineering. There may not be the space race, but there are certainly pressing and interesting technological and scientific problems to be addressed. Plenty of Americans are pressing through to PhDs. Plenty of Americans are continuing to try to hang onto their engineering jobs. They continue to update their skills, usually on their own dime. There is still a *love* of science and engineering in this country.

I'm sitting here today working on trying to get figure out the details of the latest low cost chip synthesis design flow. It's not glamorous. I was always happy to take on those unglamorous jobs. I'm more than willing to spend hours late into the night debugging a hot bug. I've been through the ups and downs of at least five startups. My husband too has been through the ups and downs of more than five startups. We both have advanced degrees from very good engineering schools.

The story I recounted above not only happened, the words "we don't do on-the-job training" were exactly what this person said. Yet, he had seen on my CV that I did not have ic *tester* experience. It did say on my CV that I had extensive high frequency *lab* test experience, high frequency ic *design* experience and extensive programming experience, yet this guy actually had the gall to tell me, as if I was some kind of SV newbie, that "we don't do on the job training."

This is not a "one off" experience. In talking with other engineers, the ball is in the hiring managers court. More often than not, they don't want to hire, or they are sitting on hundreds of resumes.

That's the reality of the Silicon Valley and Washington State H-1B saturated job market.

It's not as if people such as myself don't have options. I myself could easily apply to law school or go to work at a government labs outside California (where they are always seeking people with my skills).

Yet, it pains me when I hear industry leaders complain about a STEM professional shortage.

Even more ridiculous is to hear Zuckerberg or Gates tell the American public that there is a shortage of "programmers".

We don't have a programmer or STEM professional shortage. What we have is a STEM surplus due to an oversupply of L-1 and H-1B visas.

We have a lack of investment in R&D.

We have a lack of regulatory protection of our industries.

We have an increasing loss of jobs and manufacturing expertise due to excessive offshoring.

Sadly, it also appears that we have a lack of political leadership to safeguard the future economy of this country.
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