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Cisco's Chambers: Rival White Box Model 'Fatally Flawed'
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Tom Murphy
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11/18/2013 | 12:40:13 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
Rob, thanks. I shudda said Chambers thinks SDN overlays are "impossible" because Cisco's army of 25,000 programmers hasn't been able to make that work.  (Naturally, the company wants to promote a proprietary system.)  

I still think it's too early in the SDN game to say anything is impossible. What do other readers think?

 
RobPreston
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11/18/2013 | 12:25:54 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
In response to Murphy et al, Chambers isn't quite saying "it already tried" SDN. It's saying its SDN implementation, in which both the hardware and software matter, is the superior way forward. Some will disagree, of course, but Cisco isn't just dismissing SDN. 
Tom Murphy
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11/15/2013 | 5:57:27 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
Sue (why do I feel like we should be teleconferencing?),  I think we're on the same wavelength.  Any form of networked video shows the power of Cisco's systems -- something they must have realized years ago when designing the first Flips.  And until further notice, video starts with a video camera.

It reminds me of when Sun started playing around with PDAs, many many years before the first iPod prototype was built by Apple.  They were on the right track, just a decade or so too soon.
Susan Fogarty
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11/15/2013 | 5:33:50 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
Tom, everything you say about the Flip is true. It's a great device and I still use mine, both for work and home. However, I don't think it fit into Cisco's overall strategic plan or helped enterprise videoconferencing. Telepresence, now that's another matter...
Tom Murphy
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11/15/2013 | 4:35:18 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
Hey, don't knock the Flip! Not only did it inspire a lot of imitators and phone cams (I have a remarkably good Flip-lookalike made by Kodak. Yep, that Kodak.), but it cudda-shudda been a contender for the explosion in video networking.  That revolution is still rising, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Cisco back in the Flip business before long. 

Flips work in ways that phones can't, and they are in hot demand among indy media devotees. Here, for example, is an aging Flip selling for $120 on Craigslist. What would you pay for, say, an iPhone 2? Nothing)  That's not bad considering an iPhone 5 fetches about $100.

What do others think: was Cisco's vision for video conferencing just ahead of its time?
Tom Murphy
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11/15/2013 | 4:25:13 PM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
SueNWC:  I hear you. The way Chambers downplays SDN by saying Cisco has already tried that reminds me of the way Kodak said digital cameras would never undermine its film business (after EK invented the digital camera.) 

Hey, Mr. Chambers, have you tried to buy a roll of Kodachrome lately?
Tom Murphy
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11/15/2013 | 4:22:42 PM
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I'm with you, Lorna. I'll give Chambers an Academy Award for most consistent performance by a CEO.  But out in the real world, where savvy tech-sector analysts are betting trillions of dollars of our retirement savings, Cisco has a tough audience. Sure, the stock is up about 50% from it's 2010 low, but that's not exactly a rocketship in the tech sector.  And, besides, it has only climbed back to the low 20s -- about where it was in late 2009.  In the markets, that's called "dead money" and the company's Nov. 13 admission that revenue is soft isn't helping. 
Lorna Garey
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11/15/2013 | 12:06:26 PM
CEOs Vs. Politicians
At some point, do you feel that a CEO on the level of Chambers (or Ellison, or Meyer) is ever going to go off script? Often listening to them reminds me forcibly of the politicians on Meet the Press who cannot be lured awy from their talking points. Essentially you're getting a summary of the company's press releases, delivered in a smooth and practiced way. They could deploy a robot to do the same thing.
Susan Fogarty
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11/15/2013 | 10:57:18 AM
Re: Don't Underestimate Cisco
Insightful piece. Cisco has done remarkably well keeping ahead of the game, especially when you consider the dramatic technology changes and economic challenges of the last decade. I think Chambers may be underestimating the importance of software here, however. It's interesting that Cisco pooh-poohed the concept of overlay networks, but then included them in ACI anyway. Customers will be slow to go fully SDN, and I think overlays and white boxes will be fairly popular to try it out.
David F. Carr
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11/15/2013 | 10:50:40 AM
SDN intriguing but challenging
He may have a point that the wave of open technologies for SDN and network architectures will require more effort to implement and more "being your own systems integrator" than most organizations want to take on. Google, Facebook, and major financial services firms may be willing to put the effort into defining a custom network architecture that gives them a few extra percentage points of efficiency. How much of the rest of industry will go that far?
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