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Apple Bites Back At EU's $14.5 Billion Tax Bill
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TerryB
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TerryB,
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9/6/2016 | 1:23:53 PM
Re: Who broke the law?
I agree !00%, this is between Ireland and EU at this point. Not that I'm a fan of this offshore tax dodging. But like the Hack-a-Jordan in NBA, can't blaim Apple if rules let them do it anymore than you can blaim coaches for fouling him 20 times, which ruins the game for everyone. 
ChrisL387
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ChrisL387,
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9/3/2016 | 8:05:50 AM
Apple and Cook got called out!
For an extreme liberal, he sure likes that capitalism thats made him a billionare. He preaches liberal values while avoiding US taxes, and Apple has their products made in China to avoid that minimum wage of the USA, but yet he supports the fight for $15, well no kidding, it doesn't effect your business practice because Iphones are made in China for pennies on the dollar you charge for the pos product.
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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9/1/2016 | 8:03:11 PM
Re: history is history
The difference here is that the Apple tax rate was obnoxiously low compared to a run of the mill property tax rate. And not just a wee bit lower than in other countries, but in your face ridiculously low. How anyone could consider that a fair and legal tax is beyond me, especially since other companies in Ireland did not receive that same treatment.
jries921
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jries921,
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9/1/2016 | 7:24:01 PM
Who broke the law?
It seems to me that if a corporation makes a tax deal with a foreign government and it is subsequently ruled to be illegal, the fault lies with the government officials who negotatied the deal, not the corporate execs who are not expected to be experts on local law.  Ergo, if anybody should pay up, it should be the Irish government, in the form of a fine to the EC equal to the amount of tax Apple was excused from paying.  Apple is not a party to the EU treaties; the Irish Republic is.
LeeB120
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LeeB120,
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8/31/2016 | 10:23:11 PM
Re: history is history
Maybe you should do a little research. There are many people in jail over laws that were later found unconstitutional or thrown out for what ever reason.   The problem there is while the law is in effect it has to be followed. It doesn't matter all that much to the legal system if the law is found unconstitutional later.  
  While I agree Apple probably should have been paying more taxes they were following the laws in effect that pertained to them. You can't just go back and retroactively start taxing people like that.   It would be like your city deciding that the tax value on your house should have been doubled many years ago and now trying to charge you for back taxes even though you paid what the current laws at the time required. 

 
moarsauce123
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moarsauce123,
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8/31/2016 | 6:15:10 PM
Re: history is history
So if a law is considered unconstitutional or was put in place illegally, then all those convicted under such law should still have to sit out their punishment? I strongliest disagree to the nth degree! Apple effectively had a 0.0005% tax rate. The EU ruling states , that both Ireland and Apple Inc should have known quite well that such a tax rate is illegal, especially when it was obvious that other tech companies were charged a much higher tax rate.
LeeB120
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LeeB120,
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8/31/2016 | 9:10:53 AM
history is history
While they might not like it , it was the law that let Apple do that.  If they want to change it now that's fine but you can't just go back and say that law never mattered.  Apple could shut their doors for 10 years and still have more money than most companies and some entire countries over there.  Cook should just buy an Island somewhere and 'move' the company headquarters there.  Then he could tell all of Europe to go pack sand.

 
Technocrati
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Technocrati,
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8/31/2016 | 3:33:24 AM
Is This How The Cookie Crumbles ?
"Apple follows the law, and we pay all the taxes we owe,"


Come on Cook, think of something different. We have heard this before.
You are so adamant, so why do so many countries seem to think Apple doesn't ?
Technocrati
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Technocrati,
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8/31/2016 | 3:28:39 AM
Apple's Tax Free Objective
This is a very interesting turn of events.  Apple does want to pay taxes in the U.S or apparently Europe either. 


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