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GatineauJ611
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3/24/2016 | 3:11:18 PM
Did the FBI really need Help
I have a hard time believing that the FBI needed help and actually went public with all this...who are they trying to kid

 


philnezz
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3/24/2016 | 4:31:23 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
Yes, hard to believe the government could not find the info they wanted without the big dust-up with Apple

 

Does anyone come out ahead on this? Apple has people all over the world eager to break whatever security is has, just for the fun of it, or for money. The Justice department has egg all over its face one way or the other. And in the end, they are going to get the data and break Apple's security. Black eyes all around.
larryloeb
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3/24/2016 | 6:05:06 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
The security theatre going on is wide and deep.

The FBI thought it could sneak the all writs action by, because everyone would be distracted by them waving the 5C high,

Ignoring all the tech for a sec; the FBI seems not ready to consider that if that phone was used for terror activities, the issuer of that phone might be liable too. And who owned it? San Bernadino. The FBI going to arrest them too?

 
larryloeb
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3/24/2016 | 6:09:06 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
@jastroff

Apple is starting to get its stuff  together about security. They've been forced to realize they can't play at it anymore.

Thye just hired a Director of Security, for the first time.

They are changing their servers around because someone may have slipped a hacked Juniper router into the farms that they use(d).

I like this kind of thinking on Apple's part. It shows some seriousness, which they are going to need very soon.
Technocrati
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3/25/2016 | 2:45:45 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help

Agreed.  It is hard to believe the FBI didn't know of this method and that it will end up being much about nothing. 

I do wonder how this bill will affect things going forward though.

Technocrati
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3/25/2016 | 2:51:11 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help

@Larryloeb    I am surprised that it took so long for the Apple to hire a Dir of Security.  Did they think their products were impenetrable ?    

Looks like it.    

But on the flip-side it is encouraging that they are taking the issue of security even more seriously moving forward.

Technocrati
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3/25/2016 | 3:01:53 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help

"...the FBI seems not ready to consider that if that phone was used for terror activities, the issuer of that phone might be liable too. And who owned it? San Bernadino. The FBI going to arrest them too? "

 

 

@Larryloeb    Great point.  Another case of selective prosecution ?

larryloeb
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3/25/2016 | 4:43:14 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
@technocrati

Two weeks before the FBI demanded Apple crack it, the DEA used Cellebrite to crack another iphone. The docs for it are up on cryptome.

You would think someone should have got on the phone to them, huh?
larryloeb
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3/25/2016 | 4:45:59 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
@tech

Yeah, me too.

They have sort of realized that what they were doing before wasn't really secure. They need to harden everything.

The new 10.4 release fixed some really, really bad bugs. They have to stop those kinds of bugs from happening, now.

 
larryloeb
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3/25/2016 | 4:47:39 PM
Re: Did the FBI really need Help
More like not seeing the connection that was there all the way through to the end.

They just focused on what they wanted.
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