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PC Market Hits Historic Low: Can Windows 10 Save It?
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Brian.Dean
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1/15/2016 | 1:41:52 PM
Re: Used PCs
That is a great point about avoiding operating systems such as, Windows Vista and Windows 8.1 through the utilization of the second hand market. I think the same would apply for hardware as well. For instance, if a device is easily available in the used item market then, it could be an indication to a user that initially the device was a success in the marketplace because, the ergonomics, etc., of the device was made perfectly by the manufacturer.

Another reason is that older devices have a greater amount of open support available in the form of YouTube videos, etc. However, there are examples of companies that have taken note of this and produced in-house YouTube videos plus excellent documentation to go along with a launch of a new product.
TerryB
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1/15/2016 | 12:40:47 PM
Re: Used PCs
"consumer interest". You definitely nailed the reason for permanent decline, @Brian. Windows will last forever in enterprises but the days of everyone having a Win computer at home are gone. And that's no knock on Windows per se, just that internet browsing and person to person communication (read email) have changed so much. Everyone has that capability in their pocket now.

The other variable is how long hardware is viable now. Back in the day, a new machine was such an improvement in stability and speed of function. Now you can't tell difference. Hard drives filled up or failed within a couple of years. Now you have 1TB USB stick drives.

I still have a work computer I took home so I could VPN remotely to my desktop from home. It's was running Win Vista until I recently put Win 7 on it when my daughter picked up some malware. Does that give you some idea how old that hardware is? And it still serves it's purpose for me.
Gary_EL
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1/14/2016 | 1:15:11 PM
Re: Used PCs
Good point! The reason I buy used PC's is to avoid Windows 8.1 and 10. I wonder how many other people do the same thing?
Technocrati
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1/14/2016 | 1:13:33 PM
Re: Used PCs

@Brian.Dean    Great point !   I know I have purchased refurbished recently, it would be interesting to know if this is a larger trend. 

If so, that would explain some of the drop in demand.

Technocrati
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1/14/2016 | 1:11:32 PM
Re: Windows 10 - so what?

@Gary_EL     Will do.

Brian.Dean
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Brian.Dean,
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1/14/2016 | 6:35:29 AM
Used PCs
It would be interesting if eBay, etc., researched whether second hand PC sales were declining or increasing. If it is increasing then, it could be easy to postulate part of the reason for the decline of new PC sales and if it is also declining -- consumer interest in PCs might be over.
Gary_EL
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1/13/2016 | 8:19:32 PM
Re: Windows 10 - so what?
Now that's good news! If it turns out to be true, I may have to change my plans. The only problem then will be the drivers. In the mean time, if you find one for Windows 7, please let me know!
Technocrati
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1/13/2016 | 6:37:03 PM
Re: Windows 10 - so what?
@Gary_EL      Looks like I was wrong.   There is a Windows 10 ISO that you can download and reinstall Windows 10 with through MS of course.    

I have not tried it yet but I will get that ISO asap.  Now I need to find the one for Windows 7 as well.
Technocrati
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1/13/2016 | 6:29:42 PM
Re: Windows 10 - so what?

"..The thing that I REALLY HATE about Windows PC's in general is that they are no longer sold with any way to reinstall the operating system when, after a few months even if you have virus protection, it becomes necessary to do so."

 

@Gary_EL    I couldn't agree more. If we have bought a license for it's use then we should have some physical media to be able to reinstall if that becomes necessary.

 

Some of us use our machines for development and sometime this might require re-installing the OS.  

Microsoft listened when it came to the start button, I hope they will really listen to and act on this.

Technocrati
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1/13/2016 | 6:24:34 PM
Attractive Pricing = PC Market Rebound

I think the PC Market low is a little misleading.   While many are buying tablets, one still cannot get the power of a laptop (or PC in this case) no matter how convenient a tablet might be.

And I don't think Windows 10 will be solely responsible for the uptick in PC sales moving forward - the attractive prices of hardware will have more to do with it then anything else.

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