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nasimson
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12/27/2015 | 7:37:47 AM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
>  There is also the problem of batteries, newer batteries have a greater number of cycles
> and old batteries have a lesser amount of cycles remaining. Imagine, a consumer buying
> a new EV with new batteries only for it to be replaced with 5 year old batteries the next day
> -- the manufacturer will have to own the batteries or no consumer is going to make this exchange.

@Brian:

What if you get to buy the car but not the battery. The battery doesnt come with the car. The consumer pays rental for the fully charged battery, gets it swapped when empty and then she pays rental for the next fully charged battery.

In this case the charging cycles remaining, the age and life of the battery are no longer consumer's concerns. She pays for one full charge at a time.
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12/27/2015 | 7:26:14 AM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
@Gary:

> There will be too many differnt types of batteries to stock, and the cost will be WAY too hight.
> The batteries weigh several hundred pounds, and are VERY tempermental. Highly skilled technicians
> will be needed, as opposed to the teenaged slackers 

Arent the different battery types going to get converged into a fewer standards?

For the weight of the battery & the replacement time, don't tyres pose the same problem - although to a small scale and frequency. Batteries, even heavy weight, can be made easy & quick to swap.

For the expertise level at the stations, the battery casing can be designed as such that the different terminals cant be inter-replaced, just as the SIM cards and USB slots. They only go one way in!
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12/15/2015 | 12:28:24 PM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
I wrote an article for another publication earlier this year about that issue. At that time, there were three standards gathering steam: A US/European standard, a Japanese standard, and one for Tesla. But, I believe the real issues will be a very dramatic increase in the US electrical generating capacity when electric cars become more widespread, plus the creation and expansion of the smart grid for control and distribution. However, the bottleneck is the battery. When I read about electric cars, the only issue that interests me is battery progress.
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12/15/2015 | 7:54:49 AM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour

@Gary agree with you here that stocking a large number of batteries is not possible for a single station. I believe that once many other companys start building these electric cars then this problem of availability of batteries will be a more graver issue. I am not sure whether there will be a single battery charging station for all the different build of vehicles or every make will be having its own battery charging area. Any one with betetr knowledge can elaborate?

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12/15/2015 | 7:49:39 AM
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@Jastroff agree. But my humble assumption is that if some company is willing to invest a heavy amount like 4.5 Billion they must be having something up there sleeves to make that ROI possible. But if we go with their reputation I will go by your assumption.

mak63
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12/15/2015 | 1:15:26 AM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
swap your out-of-charge battery with a fully-charged battery?

We can only dream... Perhaps in 50 years. But at that time, we're gonna need bigger batteries for the flying and aquatic car.
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12/14/2015 | 5:25:38 PM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
One problem with the gigafactory is that it may soon be obsolete. It is designed to produce present-day lithium ion batteries. The next generation will depend heavily on nano-tech, and the manufacturing process is entirely different.
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12/14/2015 | 7:22:28 AM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
Gotta agree here. Range needs to be massively improved, though I'm interested to see what Tesla's much more efficient and cheaper battery production will allow when it's gigafactory comes online. Other manufacturers seem very likely to take advantage of that.
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12/13/2015 | 10:29:21 PM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
Another thing is battery life - if I use the car for 5 years, will the battery life decay to just half? Then it means that I can drive 200mile or less each time...
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12/13/2015 | 6:18:41 PM
Re: 80% charge in around half an hour
I agree, it seems that it will be a very expensive Formula 1 style pit stop. There is also the problem of batteries, newer batteries have a greater number of cycles and old batteries have a lesser amount of cycles remaining. Imagine, a consumer buying a new EV with new batteries only for it to be replaced with 5 year old batteries the next day -- the manufacturer will have to own the batteries or no consumer is going to make this exchange.

Ford is doing a great job by investing $4.5 billion into their EV lineup. It will be good if Ford manages to develop a 1 kWh battery for $100 by 2020.  
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