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SachinEE
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10/30/2015 | 3:55:25 PM
Re: Road Safety
@Joe: I don't like leaving my life to a machine. But it is true in a fully automated driving grid, there would be zero accidents because cars would communicate with each other.
SachinEE
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10/30/2015 | 3:53:56 PM
Re: Road Safety
Or make cars that make tremendous amounts of noise and produce tremendous amounts of vibration. The first time I drove a Dodge Challenger, it left me unable to sleep because of the tremendous amounts of noise the engine makes. Also the vibrations were enough to make you feel like you are sitting inside a small earthquake zone. Speaking of passenger safety, I think I am more impressed with the Tesla Autopilot than the Google safety system. Let's see what Apple does with their car.
TerryB
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10/30/2015 | 1:28:53 PM
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@Sunita, a sensor controlled car is is great as long as they work. But they don't. I bought a 2004 BWM M3 a couple of years ago. Went to drive home last Friday and learned it has this wonderful (sarcasm included) system called Emergency Limp Home Mode, where it kills all the power to the car because it thinks you have a serious problem based on sensor input. The darn thing stalled my car in rush hour traffic in a construction zone where you can't pull to side of road. Thankfully when I restarted, everything reset and car started functioning normally again. Been a week without any more incidents, so what am I supposed to learn from that? My car was having a bad hair day?

I don't remember having those problems when my cars had a carburetor, for the most part things failed gracefully enough you had time to get them fixed. Now you are not sure if you need to fix your car, your sensors or your onboard computer.
Joe Stanganelli
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10/30/2015 | 11:52:27 AM
Re: Road Safety
Hear hear.  Self-driving car advocates whine about how humans are bad at driving so therefore lets turn it over to the machines.  What if we just make humans better at driving?
Joe Stanganelli
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10/30/2015 | 11:49:59 AM
Dubious
"proven themselves"

Proven themselves how?

That they make driving more dangerous for human drivers?  They've certainly proven themselves that way. 

nytimes.com/2015/09/02/technology/personaltech/google-says-its-not-the-driverless-cars-fault-its-other-drivers.html

And if we ban human-driven cars, all we've really done is make the road system a form of mass transit.
nasimson
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10/30/2015 | 9:38:28 AM
Re: Road Safety
@mak: Creating better drivers has been tried for almost a century now. Stil mostl accidents happen due to driver mistakes. The problem with driver training is that each driver has to be trained from zero. The benefit with cars is that the new model has all the leanings of the old model built in.
mak63
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10/29/2015 | 10:53:59 PM
Re: Road Safety
I'm in favor of ADAS. Who wouldn't? As long as I have the last saying on the correct course of action; or as the author says: "Humans need to engage with and direct their machines, not be driven by them"

"For automakers, creating self-driving cars may be an appealing technical challenge, but creating better-driving cars is a more attainable goal."
How about a goal of creating better drivers? Not just with technology, but also with education.
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10/29/2015 | 5:26:17 PM
I want to be driven...
Remember when we dialed phone numbers one number at a time? Now we touch the contact we want to call and the phone dials. Sometime we tell Siri to call. Automation is good. Of course we are not as good as memorizing phone numbers, but that's something Einstein wasn't willing to be very good at either.

Manual transmission? Yes, for a purer driving experience. But most of us are driving auto. That's just how things are: if we don't have to we don't have to. And autonomous/self-driving cars? Same thing; I'd rather not have to deal with traffic and instead relax, work, or do something else while my car deals with the stress of driving through traffic. I'm looking forward to it.
SunitaT0
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10/29/2015 | 3:54:36 PM
Re: Road Safety
Or maybe the driver can put the car on Autopilot and doze off. If autonomous systems are really going to help, then they must first get full independent control of the variables that are governing the car and passenger safety.
SunitaT0
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10/29/2015 | 3:52:37 PM
Re: Road Safety
I think buses need this autopilot or Adas more than cars because heavy vehicles cause a lot of accidents and are responsible for a lot of more deaths. A full autonomous system full of sensors can alert the driver if something is faulty, be it brakes, fuel pipes etc. It makes for better drivability and safety for cars.
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