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Using Data To Fight Wildfires: An Inside Look
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Susan Fourtané
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9/6/2015 | 12:56:53 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
Ashish, I was talking about Regent's Park, not Hyde Park, which is a different park. I don't believe the reason for not allowing drones in the park is related to any paparazzi activity. In any case, there is nothing that can stop paparazzis, that's how they killed Princess Diana, they don't care about any rules anywhere. -Susan
Ashu001
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9/6/2015 | 12:41:56 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
Susan,

If you are'nt aware(I believe you are);London is home to not just the Wealthiest Bankers in the world but also to the Wealthiest Footballers (and Russian & Arab Oligarchs) in the world.

All those folks live close to and around Hyde Park and frequently access that area for Leisure.

They are also constantly worried about Paparazzis.

Imagine what kind of menace Paparazzis will be if They have free access to Drones???

Recipe for massive disaster if ever there was one.

Don't be surprised Drones are banned there now.

 
Ashu001
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9/6/2015 | 12:38:06 PM
Re: The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
curt,

The US Army+DoD has plenty of unmanned Soldiers/Robots which can do the heavy lifting for fire-fighthing(instead of warmongering) today.

Why does'nt the DoD Get involved here?

I suspect it has more to do with the Heavily  Unionized Nature of the Firefighting workforce in California.

Their corruption(alongwith that of Californian Cops) is legendary Globally when it comes to getting ridiculously large-sized Taxpayer funded Salaries and Pensions at the expense of all other Ordinary California residents.

 

 
Ashu001
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9/6/2015 | 12:32:59 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
Brian,

I was wondering why can't ordinary Homeowners do more on their own to protect their properties from such Forest fires?

Like set up an isolation zone around your home(like in the old days when we used to have moats around castles).

No way will a Massive Forest fire be able to jump over such deep moats especially if they are filled with Water.

There could be many more such things which Homeowners could do today .

I don't cause I don't live in such an Area(which suffers from Forest Fires) but I am extremely confident a lot more can be done today individually and collectively as well.

 
Brian.Dean
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9/5/2015 | 12:30:09 AM
Re: The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
@Charlie, great point about knowledge that is related to the spread of fire because, the right information can help a homeowner to make the right decision. These sensors have helped individuals to understand that the speed of fire is increased due to the slope of the land as well. And embers from fires can travel more than a mile. Hence, if the weather, location and fuel source, etc., are conducive then, reaction time would be extremely limited. 
Brian.Dean
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9/4/2015 | 11:55:39 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
@Curt. You are absolutely correct. Civilians should gain as much safety information as possible before deploying drones for productivity or fun. At the same time, drone manufactures should follow a high level of standardization and create documentation (a brochure and a link, etc.) to provide information about the dos and don'ts of drone ownership.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:49:32 PM
Re: The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
Thanks, @Charlie. And you're right: There's so much that isn't visible from the ground due to smoke and ash. Being able to see where combustion is actually happening is vital. One of the things that didn't make it into the piece was one of my sources talking about the accuracy of the thermal images -- they can distinguish between burning wood and hot rocks that have been in the middle of a fire.

I have nothing but admiration for all the wilderness fire fighters. We've seen once again that even with all our technology their work can be deadly but a lot of people are working hard to keep them as safe (and effective) as possible.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:42:45 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
@Brian, I didn't hear anyone talking about using drones to gather data. There are two planes that do that, but only two for the whole U.S. I strongly suspect that this time next year we'll be looking at some drones run by NWS or USFWS. From the "civilian" side, it's amazing how far following the advice "Don't be a jerk" would take us.
Curt Franklin
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9/3/2015 | 9:29:03 PM
Re: Drones and wildfires
@Susan, I can see folks with quad-copters searching out any open space in an urban area as big as London. I have to imagine there's a lot of interest in flying over Hyde Park, too -- and a lot of official interest in making sure it doesn't happen.
Charlie Babcock
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9/3/2015 | 7:50:56 PM
The HotShots still work hard to earn their grub
Curtis, Nice show of the kind of information used in wild fire fighting today. It's a huge assist to the people responsible for utilizing the limited resources. Gathering the thermal information from the air is vital because many wild fire fronts obscure their speed, movement and direction under thick smoke. Knowledge in depth of the weather is another huge assist. But there's still a lot of grunt work on the ground by HotShots and other front line fire fighters. Hats off to them.
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