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stevew928
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9/1/2015 | 3:10:03 PM
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Yes, again, alternatives depends on what was needed to be acomplished.

But, security was already a big issue back then... (from Jobs' open letter):

"Symantec recently highlighted Flash for having one of the worst security records in 2009. We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash. We have been working with Adobe to fix these problems, but they have persisted for several years now. We don't want to reduce the reliability and security of our iPhones, iPods and iPads by adding Flash."
larryloeb
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9/1/2015 | 2:22:53 PM
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Well, i mean that the train seemed to stop at their station more during then.

They had some big creative tools (and still do) where there was no good alternatives.

They user base didnt have another good alternative then, as I said. The security problems has not really shown up at that point.

But they do have alternatives now.
stevew928
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9/1/2015 | 2:12:28 PM
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Hmm, maybe I haven't been following Adobe close enough, but wouldn't that still be the case? And, if memory serves, it wasn't Adobe pushing Flash so much as the user/developer-base, right?
larryloeb
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9/1/2015 | 1:41:30 PM
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> I'd have to think it was simply a gut attempt to just go against Jobs

Adobe had a LOT of influence five years ago.

And money to spend.
stevew928
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9/1/2015 | 1:32:23 PM
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True, it wasn't a viable alternative for *some* applications, but was for 95% of what Flash was being used for out on the Web. And, while I applaud Jobs for taking the stand he did (and starting the avalanche), it didn't exactly take a ton of vision on that one.

I was quite against Flash before that, as the resources it required were outrageous, it was quite buggy and a huge security hole, AND the biggest reason, it was quickly becoming a non-standard, in that more and more devices couldn't (or shouldn't) use it.

I think the biggest surprise to me, were the companies that jumped on-board to support it, in an almost suicidal move. I'd have to think it was simply a gut attempt to just go against Jobs, rather than anyone actually taking the time to think it through.
larryloeb
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9/1/2015 | 1:13:24 PM
Re: HTML5
Quite true on his vision.

But, at the time, HTML5 was not a viable alternative for a lot of people.

And, again at the time, it was viewed by many as just another shot at Adobe after the FontWars.
larryloeb
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9/1/2015 | 1:11:28 PM
Re: HTML5
In general, suits have no idea about code issues.

The good ones realize that.
stevew928
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9/1/2015 | 1:06:55 PM
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Well, he was (as usual) smart enough to recognize where things were going. Flash was already dead at that point, it just hadn't fallen over yet. And, it took the rest of the world much longer to catch up to that realization.
stevew928
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9/1/2015 | 1:04:16 PM
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Fair point, but I'm talking in general. And, if that's the case, probably time to find a new place to work with a bit smarter suits.
larryloeb
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9/1/2015 | 11:59:17 AM
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Well, he hadn't been declared a Saint at that point.

He was just another upstart fighting the Machine.
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