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Martin Snyder
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Martin Snyder,
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10/8/2015 | 9:53:28 AM
Re: Do we need defensive perimeters of patents in the cloud?
Please.  I know first-hand that IBM will relentlessly troll.  If of course by trolling you mean asserting low-quality patents against tiny defendants using insane damages theories....
Li Tan
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Li Tan,
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8/8/2015 | 9:41:09 PM
Re: Do we need defensive perimeters of patents in the cloud?
I think innovation and making breakthrough to make a great product is more important then simple patenting. Of course patent is necessary and a proof of a company's  R&D capability but patent itself is far from enough.
AlurL137
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8/7/2015 | 5:15:29 PM
Re: Do we need defensive perimeters of patents in the cloud?
OK  I appreciate your honest reply. IBM is one of the last US hardware companies. I'd like to see innovations in hardware instead of trolling patents. I was a recipient of IBM services 30 years ago. Today, they aren't an innovator in their own field. They may be doing all they can in the face of competition, but I'm just analyzing it as it appears in the marketplace.

 
CharlesB21101
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8/5/2015 | 12:17:03 PM
Do we need defensive perimeters of patents in the cloud?
AlurL137, I for one have not described IBM as a patent troll and a follow up story today attempts to describe how IBM's use of patents is largely defensive, and often on behalf of partners and allies. Not that it doesn't know hnow to make money on its IP. But it does so in defensive, not offensive, activity. I believe the Patent Office grants software process and business process patents much too liberally. That helps create the problem that tb27 mentions -- the need for companies like IBM to pursue patents for self-protection.
AlurL137
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8/5/2015 | 11:39:47 AM
IBM is desperate
IBM tanked when they continued their emphasis on mainframes when most businesses were discovering the PC. IBM couldn't even hold on to their silly, low level lenovo. Their answer is to troll for patents to tie up innovation on the cloud. It may be a short term fix for their incompetant/outdated management, but it won't hold up in the long run. Innovation will come from companies that aren't dinosaurs.

Anyone remember being held hostage by IBM's PTFs?
tb27
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8/5/2015 | 9:36:34 AM
Re: Sharing economy?
While the tone of the article seems anti-IBM, I think it really needs to be on the patent office.  If it's going to grant patents like these then it behooves a company like IBM to be there with it first.  Otherwise some other company will get it.  I don't blame IBM for that at all.

I think the issue is that the patent office grants patents that really shouldn't be granted. 
cafehunk
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8/4/2015 | 8:23:29 PM
What that patent means
Charles, read the patent, in particular the claims of the patent. If you don't do the steps in claim 1 of the patent, you're not infringing. This patent shows one way to periodically snapshot a long running process to survive having the process fail somewhere along the way, but certainly not all ways that you can do that. Just scanning the patent, I think it's not even the best way to do it, and if I were so inclined, could file patents on at least four ways to improve upon the method that's described.
TimothyO572
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8/4/2015 | 7:46:55 PM
Re: Sharing economy?
2 points: cloud PaaS is likely to be the eventual end-game solution, and that makes a great deal of cloud functional patents irrelevant since the platform's availability/speed/security features need not be exposed or described, but will merely be leveraged by the platform owner by their ability to provide and guarantee superior SLAs. Second, as far as the merit of your example patents are concerned, it's hard to say what their actual strategic worth might be without very closely reading each, and having a deep understanding of the context in which they were filed. I'm a primary inventor of about 10 different patents and for the majority of them, 95% of the patent's content is fluff or describes prior art or otherwise obvious embodiments and design characteristics, but hidden inside the invention is a couple of novel ideas (often just a single sentence or two) that form the heart of the patent.
CharlesB21101
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8/4/2015 | 1:50:27 PM
IBM biggest holder of cloud patents?
Usually IBM isn't the only one pursuing patents in emerging technology areas. I'm sure Google and Microsoft are also But I think IBM is the biggest.
IMjustinkern
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8/4/2015 | 10:20:39 AM
Sharing economy?
IBM has got to make some money and this may be the fastest path toward that end (and supplanting its leaking MF/hardware legacy business). I'm not sure the sharing economy has anything to do with it. While IBM may (once again) dominate in the patent department, a quick search of the USPTO site shows they are hardly alone in putting their ownership stamp on the cloud.


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