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IoT Makes Motorcycles, Helmets Safer, Smarter
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shakeeb
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6/30/2015 | 10:02:29 AM
The concept
I just love the concept. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these beasts. Skully seems to have a good response from the motorcycle riders. 
Susan Fourtané
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6/30/2015 | 11:17:37 AM
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shakeeb, Are you planning to buy one? :D They are offering test rides as well. I believe the combination of the Skully helmet and the Zero motorcycle has to offer a great experience to the rider. Not to mention both are working to make roads safer. -Susan
yalanand
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6/30/2015 | 2:10:15 PM
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I have seen skully helmets and I was impressed with the blind spot avoidance camera and in built Bluetooth chatting capability. Now they integrate it with iot and this has got me interested. Maybe this kind of service would be available to all bikes in general.
Susan Fourtané
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6/30/2015 | 8:09:55 PM
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yelanand, What kind of service are you saying it should available to all bikes, the one Zero Motorcycle has added to its bikes? As you were talking aboiut the Skully helmet I am not sure what service to were talking about. -Susan
StaceyE
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6/30/2015 | 9:33:11 PM
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These helmets sound like they could be very beneficial for riders!
yalanand
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6/30/2015 | 2:12:36 PM
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Maybe the bike should come with radar systems and automatic braking system. Suppose you are flying at 100 miles an hour and its a road covered with blind turns. You take a turn and the radar detects a fast moving automobile coming towards you and knowing that you cannot react quickly it brakes for you.
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6/30/2015 | 2:26:51 PM
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While I agree that it could help in safety situations to help reduce speed, I don't think I would personally like to have a motorbike suddenly brake without my knowledge or faster than I can adapt to it.  The shift in balance could cause more personal harm, not to mention the instant response could throw people off and cause more harm.  In cars, it's less of an issue, since there are more safety controls in place to protect the driver, but on a motorbike, suddenly stopping or changing position could be riskier (if not more dangerous) for both the rider and other motorists in the vicinity.
StaceyE
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6/30/2015 | 9:35:29 PM
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I agree with you. It seems like an automatic braking system on a motorcycle could certainly create some stability issues!
Susan Fourtané
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6/30/2015 | 9:49:32 PM
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Stacey, that automatic breaking system doesn't exist in motorcycles. -Susan
StaceyE
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7/1/2015 | 10:25:11 AM
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I know...That could be disasterous for a motorcycle rider.
Susan Fourtané
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7/1/2015 | 10:32:08 AM
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Stacey, 

In a way, yes, unless someone comes up with safety belts for motorcycles. The connected, or even autonomous features will be different depending on the type of vehicle. 

-Susan 
StaceyE
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7/1/2015 | 11:30:25 AM
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Yes, there are some features that may make sense for a car or truck, but would definitely not be a good feature for a motorcycle. I think a safetey belt might even be a bad idea for a motorcycle. Having been on them most of my life, I would hate to have an accident and not be able to get thrown clear of the bike. Being strapped to it in that situation would most certainly be deadly.
Ashu001
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7/1/2015 | 12:58:43 PM
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Stacey,

Good points!

I am amazed that someone would even Suggest wearing a Seatbelt on a Motorcycle today!

Helmets -Yes ,Kneepads-Yes,Strong Shoes-Yes but Seatbelts absolutely a No-No!

 
Susan Fourtané
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7/1/2015 | 3:12:29 PM
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Ashish, and who could that be if not me? :D I know, I thought better about it later. -Susan
Ashu001
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7/3/2015 | 12:52:23 PM
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Susan,

LOL!!!

This is a mega-Howlarious one!

I was recently discusing with a friend about the importance of wearing a Seabtbelt on a Car(especially if you are going to drive at high-speeds);but my friend was so used to driving a Bike(at very high speeds) that he found wearing Seatbelts in a Car very uncomfortable.

It was not untill he was fined repeatedly(for not wearing a Seatbelt) that he changed his behavior!

 
Susan Fourtané
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7/3/2015 | 3:34:26 PM
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Ashu, your friend couldn't live in the UK where by law you have to wear a seatbealt when you travel by coach. It would be interesting to know what your friend thinks about the Zero connected motorcycle and the Skully helmet. Did you ask him? -Susan
Ashu001
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7/4/2015 | 10:41:13 AM
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Susan,

You have to believe me;I most certainly DId!

LOL!!!

He said if he has to wear all these new-fangled Gizmos he might as well as Stop Driving and Hire an Uber cab instead.

LOL!!!

Ashish.
Susan Fourtané
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Susan Fourtané,
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7/4/2015 | 11:07:52 AM
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Ashish, oh, I thought he might find everything so cool. So, what kind of motorcycle he rides? If he hires an Uber car he has to deal with the technology Uber uses. :D -Susan
Ashu001
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7/4/2015 | 12:11:16 PM
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Susan,

He drives a Harley.

He just adores the way the Wind Brushes against him when he takes that Beast out on the Road!!

A Seatbelt would just cramp his style !

He remains entirely old-school and hands-on unless the need for Tech neccesiates itself.

 

 
Susan Fourtané
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7/4/2015 | 12:55:23 PM
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I like how those two sentences sound. Quite poetic. :D Harley is also embracing IoT. What is he going to do if in a near future there are connected Harleys? -Susan
Ashu001
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7/4/2015 | 1:01:34 PM
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Susan,

Don't worry he follows Tech events quite closely.

Which is why he has self-learnt how to Maintain his Beloved Harley today.

He is quite prepared for an event when everything becomes super-automated;in which case he will stick with his Old Harleys as long as he can ride 'em!!!

 

 
Susan Fourtané
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7/4/2015 | 1:27:05 PM
The connected motorcycle vs the traditional one
How interesting. I suppose there will always be some people who will prefer the old bikes and the old cars without any added connectivity, right? Now, how will that work when all the infrastructure is changed to adapt to the connected and autonomous vehicles? -Susan
Ashu001
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7/6/2015 | 12:55:03 PM
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Susan,

I really don't know how to predict/place this trend accurately enough.

I regularly see folks still driving 30-40 year old cars and Bikes on Highways everywhere.

They don't seem to be having any sort of Problems with their Driving Experiences do they?

In any Technological transistion there will always be some Holdouts.

Question is at what point do the transistions become so HUGE that almost everybody becomes an Holdout?

What happens then?

Does the Technology start cannibalizing on itself via AI?

So many questions to ponder in this very interesting space currently.

 

 
Susan Fourtané
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7/31/2015 | 12:49:58 PM
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Ashish, quite thought provoking questions, indeed. I recently visited the Autoshow exhibition in Brussels, Belgium, and loved to see all the old cars and motorcycles. They have an impressive collection that goes back to 1900s and visits every decade until the present. There are also some Europeancarriages from way before 1900s. It was super interesting so see the technology before each decade in the automotive industry. I even saw the very first electric car. :) I have a picture, and everything. So, with all this I want to say that during my visit to the Autoshow I had present this, and all my articles about connected, autonomous, and electric vehicles. And yes, I also had some thoughts about the future, and what it will bring to the automotive industry with all the new technology, and also AI. -Susan
Ashu001
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8/28/2015 | 2:32:06 PM
Re: The connected motorcycle vs the traditional one
Susan,

And I assume you will soon be sharing those insights with all us interested folks at Informationweek!!!

When is the Good day coming?

Hopefully soon!

Would love to hear what you have observed in this space today.

Have you had the oppurtunity to sample/try out Daimler's new driverless trucks?

It seems they have reached Level 3 on the Driving Difficulty here.

Nevada state Highways and Germany's autobahns have given full permission for them to ply their trucks now.

Sounds like a great idea in practice!

 
StaceyE
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7/31/2015 | 11:56:07 AM
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You're correct, an accident could only end badly.
Susan Fourtané
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7/1/2015 | 3:22:48 PM
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Stacey, yes, you are right. I thought more about it after I wrote the comment and it definitely didn't sound like a good idea. :) But well, sometimes bad ideas come out as well. -Susan
StaceyE
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7/31/2015 | 11:54:30 AM
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@ Susan

I think it would be more difficult to recognize the good ideas without some bad ones along the way!
Susan Fourtané
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7/31/2015 | 12:40:37 PM
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That's true, Stacey! :) -Susan
StaceyE
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7/31/2015 | 1:34:21 PM
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The topic of bad ideas made me think of my son. He recently bought a new house that has french doors with windows and his front door is mostly glass. He decided to buy curtains and install them himself..good idea. The bad idea came with installation. He hung the curtain rods on the wall above the doors!!!! (Instead of to the doors)... Had to laugh. been a few weeks and he still hasn't corrected it.
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8/28/2015 | 2:28:40 PM
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Stacey,

Your son's story was enormously funny!!!

Thanks for sharing it!

One learns a lot everyday.Is'nt it?

There is no real end to the learning.

Just one has to be humble and embrace change.

Everything then just falls into place(sort of).

 
StaceyE
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8/31/2015 | 11:29:23 AM
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What is even funnier, is that it still isn't fixed...even though his dad has offered to fo it for him...lol
Susan Fourtané
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6/30/2015 | 9:59:51 PM
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Stratus, I agree that it wouldn't be the same to have an automatic breaking system in motorcyles as autonomous cars have. Maybe, the system could be something different, like sending an alert to the rider who then could break? -Susan
StaceyE
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7/31/2015 | 12:04:31 PM
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I think something to alert the rider is a great idea. Indicators on sideview mirrors like cars have would be a good safety addition to a motorcycle to let them know if someone is coming up beside them. Some helmets offer limited visual ability for riders.
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8/28/2015 | 2:25:14 PM
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Stacey,

I don't want to give the impression that absolutely nothing good will come out of this IoT Phase.

I just heard that Daimler has got permission for virtually Driverless Trucks(on Nevada State Highways).

In addition,they seem to have got full Autobahn Permission in Germany as well.

Your Helmet idea is a step in the right direction(especially if it comes built in with Collision Avoidance Mechanisms in place).

 
Susan Fourtané
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6/30/2015 | 8:04:21 PM
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yelanand, radar systems and automatic braaking systems are autonomous vehicles features. They might be added to motorcycles in the future, if manufacturers go that way and there is demand for autonomous motorcycles. Maybe a bike rider could answer to the question if an autonomous bike would be appealing to them. The reasons why someone buys a motorcycle could be differ from the ones that motivate someone to buy a car. However, with vehicle to vehicle (V2V) technology being a legal requirement as soon as 2017, all the vehicles, including bikes, might have to add autonomous features to their models. Do you ride a bike? -Susan


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