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Thomas Claburn
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Thomas Claburn,
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6/29/2015 | 6:52:30 PM
Why?
What would Samsung gain by blocking updates?
Gary_EL
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Gary_EL,
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6/29/2015 | 7:26:04 PM
Re: Why?
I read earlier, on this same website, that the reason was that Microsoft Update would automatically update a driver for Samsung's USB 3.0 port. The peculiarities of that port were incompatible with with the Microsoft driver. I wonder how they got around that issue?
Ashu001
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6/30/2015 | 9:35:13 AM
Re: Why?
Gary,

I don't think this was the only reason why Samsung blocked Windows Updates.

They did because(atleast initially);they wanted to give Consumers more Control over when they can update their Systems-www.bbc.com/news/technology-33269868

To me (personally) it just feels like a case of one Company trying to gain an ego-boost over the other.

I think it was really-really foolish on Samsung's part to think that they can give Consumers control over such a critical issue(especially at a time when Zero-Day Vulnerabilities are getting targetted like theirs no tommorow;Check out the latest Adobe Flash Player zero-day bug hackers for starters).

But then,I am a security Guy and look at everything from that Angle only.

What do Marketers and Company Execs feel about this issue?

I daresay the feeling might be a little more different.

 

 

 

 
shakeeb
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6/30/2015 | 9:59:32 AM
Re: Why?
@Ashu – I agree. How foolish are they to take such a step, after all the back end would be the Windows OS. Hence Microsoft has a better say on it. 
Ashu001
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6/30/2015 | 10:12:45 AM
Re: Why?
Shakeeb,

Good to know that there are more Sensible folks like you out there who appreciate the work Microsoft has done and is doing in this space.

Have you had the oppurtunity to play with/work with Microsoft's Threat Modelling Tool?

Highly,Highly Recommended-www.microsoft.com/en-in/download/details.aspx?id=42518

In contrast Samsung has pathetic credentials when it comes to Security.


Why do you think their own Homegrown OS(in the smartphone space) is failing/ faringso miserably versus Android?


Samsung patches and upgrades Android OSes atleast 3-4 months AFTER Google releases them.

Just for fun's sake,I bought two phones with basically the same Hardware and Software(one from Samsung and the other was Stock Android);you will be stunned to notice how pathetically sluggish Samsung is when it comes to upgrading their OS!!!

The Skycure revelation about MITM Attacks on Samsung Default Keyboards is another case in point today-www.skycure.com/blog/skycure-protects-against-the-samsung-swiftkey-vulnerability/
tzubair
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6/30/2015 | 2:07:08 PM
Re: Why?
"Just for fun's sake,I bought two phones with basically the same Hardware and Software(one from Samsung and the other was Stock Android);you will be stunned to notice how pathetically sluggish Samsung is when it comes to upgrading their OS!!!"

@Ashu001: I don't think that applies to all Samsung models. I had a Nexus phone by Samsung and that used to be the first one to get the OS updates. Of course it had Google's support behind it. I think Samsung wants to ensure that the OS version is compatible with the hardware before they go for a mass update. Plus, their own UI built on top of the OS also need to be upgraded to support the OS version.
Ashu001
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7/1/2015 | 12:47:16 PM
Re: Why?
Taimoor,

I call that Additional Layer of Samsung Software as "Bloatware".

Absolutely pointless and most of it is never even used by Consumers.

Prefer cleaner (&Lighter) smartphones anytime!

 
shakeeb
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6/30/2015 | 9:57:37 AM
Re: Why?
@Gary – Microsoft would definitely have a set of drivers along with their Windows 10, but they should have partnered with Samsung to get drivers for their products. 
Ashu001
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6/30/2015 | 10:05:16 AM
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shakeeb,

Fair enough statement you make here.

Actually Microsoft usually does a reasonably good job of partnering with various Hardware OEMs on this issue.

But sometimes the Hardware OEMs are unable to keep up with the pace of change of Microsoft(which is clearly what happened here as well).

This is why I was very clear in Blaming Samsung for what happened.

They let the Ball slip away bigtime here!

 
tzubair
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6/30/2015 | 2:14:07 PM
Re: Why?
" Microsoft Update would automatically update a driver for Samsung's USB 3.0 port. The peculiarities of that port were incompatible with with the Microsoft driver"

@Gary: That's surprising to know. USB 3.0 seems to be a widespread feature and Microsoft's OS not supporting is rather a sign of their negligence. I do hope the patch has been rolled out that would take care of this.
Ashu001
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6/30/2015 | 9:41:56 AM
Re: Why?
Thomas,

The Answer is basically that Samsung was too busy trying to protect and Holdonto their Bloatware which just makes PCs go slower and is basically still incompatible with Windows 8.1

More from Graham Cluley-grahamcluley.com/2015/06/samsung-disabled-windows-update

Really,really foolish move on Samsung's part ;especially when one realizes that Zero-day bugs are happily tracked and hunted in the Wild on the Internet today.Any move to REDUCE basic Software protection is really,really dumb.

Regards

Ashish.

 
shakeeb
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6/30/2015 | 9:55:10 AM
Re: Why?
I wonder why Samsung would take such a decision and how Microsoft would react to it. 
shakeeb
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6/30/2015 | 9:56:23 AM
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@Thomas – There wouldn't be a reason unless Microsoft tried to block Samsung software. 
tzubair
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6/30/2015 | 2:45:58 PM
Forced updates
"Windows 10, which Microsoft will launch later this summer, won't give consumers the option of selecting the updates they want to install on their PCs. Rather, the new system will automatically download and install all updates and fixes by default."

I am not sure how much this forced update feature in Windows 10 will be appreciated. Normally, as a user I would like the freedom to install updates at my own will. Sometimes I may be using an expensive data connection or the speed might be really slow and I'd rather not let the bandwidth be consumed at that time. I think this may just backfire for Microsoft.
Ashu001
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7/1/2015 | 12:51:28 PM
Re: Forced updates
Taimoor,

The major reason why MSFT is going in for Automatic/Default updates is that there are way too many Unpatched Machines out there;which automatically lead to malware outbreaks by the Millions.

Thousands and Thousands of unpatched Machines are comandeered for Botnets by Financial Criminals today.

All because they are unpatched.

If anything one should give MSFT credit for going the extra mile and fixing this issue before it turns serious.

 


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