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Curt Franklin
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7/1/2015 | 3:18:00 PM
Re: Surprising
@jastroff, in a lot of ways I still "think" in Fortran: If I'm working through a problem in my head, I'll likely do it in Fortran, then translate to whichever language I work in when it's time to hit the keyboard.

It's kind of like what I do with music: Even though I'm primarily a keyboard player, when I hear a melody line my fingers move on imaginary saxophone keys.

And I've got an article coming up on Fortran -- I'll look forward to the discussion around that one!
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7/1/2015 | 3:15:18 PM
Re: Techie sugestion for more efficient code. (IBM style)
@cmach750, thanks for this! I'll be honest: It's been a long time since I've enjoyed a discussion topic as much as I've enjoyed this one -- and comments like your are the reason why. I'm working on another retro-language article and I hope we can have another great conversation around that one.

 
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7/1/2015 | 3:11:52 PM
Re: COBOLs days are over
@asksqn, I don't think I would recommend that someone at the beginning of their career learn COBOL instead of Java or C++, but I don't think it's ready to be put out to pasture just yet. As you say, there are a lot of proprietary systems out there running COBOL software and IBM continues to sell a bunch of System Z machines every year. COBOL's not a bad language to have in your bag of tricks if you want to be able to work in shops where pocket protectors are more than vague memories.
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6/29/2015 | 12:48:13 PM
Re: Surprising
@Jschmidt27, one of my favorite early career memories is of watching Forrest Mims enter a program into a MITS Altair machine using the toggles on the front panel. It's no wonder that Microsoft took off!

I loved (and still love) the feeling of being able to directly control the hardware through assembler, but multi-core systems make writing efficient code much more challenging. I suppose I'll stick to higher level languages, but I'll still complain about the "young kids" and how easy things are for them!
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6/29/2015 | 12:44:33 PM
Re: Surprising
@jastroff, Fortran was my first language. It was a lot of fun until you actually had to move data in and out of the system -- I never lost my dislike for complex FORMAT statements!
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6/29/2015 | 12:43:22 PM
Re: Age of COBOL Programmer
@kstaron, I suppose Python makes sense if you're doing database work, but I'm still a fan of fully compiled languages for learning programming principles. It is truly interesting to see how the push and pull of practical considerations versus educational needs has an impact on what's taught at university.
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6/25/2015 | 10:10:18 AM
Re: Can we really walk away from systems that still work?
@rhariharan950, the "self documenting" nature of COBOL really can't be under-estimated when it comes to the language's value. I've spent hours and hours helping programmers (including my son) debug C++ and Java code: Without in-line comments, trying to get your head around what someone else has done in their code can be awfully frustrating.

And we won't even talk about languages like APL, which some have called the world's first "write-only language."
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6/25/2015 | 10:07:37 AM
Re: Surprising
@nasimson, I'll admit that I'm pleasantly surprised by the depth of conversation around COBOL -- but I've stopped being surprised by the depth of knowledge (or enthusiasm) that exists in the InformationWeek community. I'm just trying to figure out some more articles that I think would be interesting.

How do folks feel about FORTRAN? I'll admit a soft spot for the language, since it was the first one I learned back when dinosaurs roamed the earth.
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6/24/2015 | 4:11:03 PM
Re: Did 'Visual' start with Visual Studio or MicroFocus?
Thanks for that bit of history @WilliamS492. I know I was surprised by just how quickly COBOL seemed to be overtaken by BASIC -- I think you're quite right in pointing at the Windows-ecosystem reasons.
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6/24/2015 | 3:56:12 PM
Re: Age of COBOL Programmer
@Bud, I've got a serious question for you: How is Visual BASIC as a first language for young people? I held onto a Turbo Pascal package for years to use in helping young folks program and I've since turned to the Arduino to get people started. If Visual BASIC will let them get into programming without spending hours figuring out windowing systems, then I'll have to take a much closer look at it for my nephew and his friends.
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