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6 Job Search Apps That Restore Your Dignity
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mejiac
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5/9/2015 | 9:32:52 AM
"Dignity" is sthe word
Excellent article David,

Three years ago, I spent almost three months job hunting, which was my longest strech, since I was more accostumed to going from one employer to another with a week inbetween at the most.

Those three months were the most stressful in my life (taking care of my kids is a walk in the park vs the stress off trying to get a job). I spent countless hours searching each and every site, to the point that I would get 50+ notices daily, only to have to navigate throught them and have to disregard many since they were either duplicates or old postings.

If these apps were available then, I would bet the process would have been less grueling.

Thhanks for sharing
David Wagner
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David Wagner,
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5/11/2015 | 12:18:21 PM
Re: "Dignity" is sthe word
@Mejiac- Glad to be of service. I hope the next time (if there has to be a next time) will go easier for you. I appreciate finding apps like these, because it reminds me at least some developers remember that customers are people and not just downloads.
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:18:21 PM
Re: "Dignity" is sthe word
@Mejiac- Glad to be of service. I hope the next time (if there has to be a next time) will go easier for you. I appreciate finding apps like these, because it reminds me at least some developers remember that customers are people and not just downloads.
mejiac
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mejiac,
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5/9/2015 | 9:40:27 AM
Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
From a person seeking a job, no matter at what career level you're at, it can cause stress and anxiety in different ways, from butterflies in your stomach to not being able to sleep at night.

One of the things that was actually very unfulfilling was not getting any type of responsing, causing one to question if there's somethign wrong with either your resume and/or skill set. Not getting any type of feedback I think can be as detremental as someone saying "Sorry, but you're not qualified". So having an app that actually provides that closue of "thank you, but the position has been filled" those provide some peace of mind.

"It may not be possible to entirely re-humanize the job search. HR still uses checklists and search engines to go through resumes." This is very true. Some positions get so many applications, that going through each and every one of the resumes can be a very daunting task, reason why my companies use software that applies certaing logic to look for specific criteria in resumes.

There's also the job application process, which anyone who has recently gone through them can testify that I can easily consume from an hour or two just to get to the second screen. These job application platforms are there to help out the vetting process, but many qualified candidates fall through the cracks simply because they didn't toggle the correct checkbox or didn't choose the correct dropdown option.

Some companies know are asking for a self interview: They ask the candidate to make a video of themselves asking answering specific questions. Some candidates love this, other are too shy in front of the camera and fail badly.

At the end there's no better option than an HR rep going through your resume and then simply picking up the phone and calling (which is what most HeadHunters do).
Brian.Dean
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5/11/2015 | 1:00:21 AM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
Not responding to a potential employee could also be viewed as a business' failure to communicate effectively with the outside world.

Mostly probably, potential employees have read the job requirements, duties and education requirements of a job before applying, if a candidate meets the requirement and still does not get a response (even, if it is a rejection response due to demand and supply forces) then, a communication failure has accrued. If this is happening to potential employees then, most probably the business would be doing the same to potential customers, in which case, maybe, it is good that the employer did not respond.
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:33:12 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
@brian.dean- I generally agree with you that not getting back to an applicant is a potential business error. I was interviewed for a position once that I wanted quite a lot. I thought the interview went well. I followed up with a thank you and was told I'd hear back in a week. I let two weeks go by, sent a polite followup and never heard back. A week later i sent another email saying that I had another job offer (which was true), but that I'd have preferred the job with them, and I asked if they had a sense of the timing. They never responded.

I have no idea if they hired anyone for that position. But I know I said to myself i'd never apply to another job there. If they did that to enough talent, there'd be a lot of people out and around saying, "hey, don't apply there. They left me hanging." Eventually, that hurts your hiring.

Probably a coincidence, but that company went out of business recently.
Kelly22
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5/11/2015 | 12:44:04 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
@Dave I've been in a similar situation - applied, interviewed, follow-up (twice) then nothing. The interview seemed to go well and I thought it was a poor reflection on the company that I never heard a response. Even if they had decided to go with another candidate, I would have preferred to receive a rejection than hear nothing at all.
Brian.Dean
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5/12/2015 | 8:01:03 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
@Kelly, it has happened at my end as well and the experience was with a complete industry. It did not matter if identity capital was increased and a new application was sent after a few years -- the result was the same, no response. The conclusion that I drew out of the experience is that either, the industry does not value human resources or that the industry does not care for identity capital and only values networking. 
Broadway0474
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5/12/2015 | 9:53:33 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
I wonder how much of the silence is due to a fear of putting something in a rejection email that is incriminating. If a HR staffer or the hiring officer responds personally, the rejected candidate might ask for a specific reason for their rejection. Answering that could open up that employer to potential discrimination lawsuits. It's a stretch, but I could see certain companies being overly cautious about it.
impactnow
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5/13/2015 | 3:05:32 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch

I am not sure it is as simple as a reply email box. I think it would be very time consuming to reply to all rejected candidates unless there was a one click type of solution in the their recruiting application that produced a standard rejection email vetted by legal. Years ago many companies sent snail mail rejection letters so it is possible, but the volume of resumes received today makes rejection more of an issue for already taxed HR departments.

Broadway0474
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5/13/2015 | 10:23:25 PM
Re: Job Hunting no longer has a human touch
impactnow, it's not that HR departments need to send rejection letters to everyone who applies to a position. That's obviously impractical. But if you've been contacted by them for even an intro phone interview, let alone made it to round 3 of the process, you deserve at least some sort of note that thanks you for your time.
soozyg
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5/10/2015 | 8:45:44 AM
personal emails?
didn't want to send rejection letters from personal email accounts

I'm not sure I understand this. Are you talking about much smaller companies that don't have a domain address? Why would an (HR) employee use a personal email address?
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:22:45 PM
Re: personal emails?
@soozyg- I'm only reporting what was said to me by the founder. I know some companies don't like to respond simply because the response can be used against them. 

But to be honest, i'd say even from big companies I got most of my responses back from personal email addresses so clearly some  HR is not taking advantage of some of the options available. 
soozyg
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5/11/2015 | 12:28:23 PM
Re: personal emails?
Very interesting. I would think using private emails could even open the company to liability. For instance, if someone's email program gets a virus because it was used on the company system or if a candidate decides to sue the person who sent the email and the only connection to the company is the personal email. I don't know, that seems to be some food for thought.
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:34:41 PM
Re: personal emails?
@soozyg- Just to clarify, i mean personal corporate email, not the email they use at home. Personal vs a no-reply email. 
soozyg
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5/12/2015 | 8:38:13 PM
Re: personal emails?
@Dave, ok, that is different, but wouldn't an HR person use [email protected] company.com or are you suggesting that a lot of rejection emails come from a generic address like [email protected]?
soozyg
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5/10/2015 | 8:48:07 AM
posted job are old jobs
I heard from a semi-reliable source a few years back that something like 95% of open positions are not publicized, making postings on job sites irrelevant as soon as they're posted.
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:25:03 PM
Re: posted job are old jobs
@soozyg- Yes, there are even apps that claim to somehow find that hidden percentage. I don't quite understand how. I think the number of invisible jobs went down during the financial crisis because employers knew there were lots of people competing for jobs. The most recent number i saw was 80% (which is still high). It will be interesting to see where that number goes as the job market heats up.
Brian.Dean
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5/11/2015 | 12:44:58 AM
Hired (the app)
Hired (the app) is an interesting twist. It reverses the dynamics of creating a connection between an employee and a business. But, I fell that it reverses the economics as well.

Traditionally, an employee initiates contact because they see the value and would like to be part of a greater value chain and in doing so, take home a higher salary. In the reversed situation, the employers see the value of human capital and initiates contact -- offers a lower salary in exchange of human contact. Different users have different requirements and it would be a great trade-off for some users.
David Wagner
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5/11/2015 | 12:28:20 PM
Re: Hired (the app)
@brian.dean- Well, i agree with you that it changes the dynamic. I'm not sure about lowering the offer though. I think the offers actually go up, because companies know they are in open competition for this person. They will be receiving multiple bids in a week. If you aim low, they may ignore your offer.

Either way there are two things to note:

1) This only works where the job has scarcity (like software development or perhaps welding which is in high demand).

2) It takes the guess work out of the annoying "who will show their cards first about salary" dance everyone does.
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5/22/2015 | 6:18:41 PM
The job of searching
I am liking the idea behind Hired. The worst part about getting a new job is the search, which tends to feel like another full time job. I'm going to have to check that out for someone I know that's looking in one of those areas.

LunchMeet also sounds likea great way to network.


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