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5/9/2015 | 3:41:38 PM
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@Dave, the only prequel I saw, I think was the one that involved a car race. Liam Neeson was a young Obi Wan, I think. I just remember 1/4 of the way through it, I was bored by the story. It was very tedious and I kept thinking, wow this is an unnecesarily complicated storyline for a supposedly uncomplicated movie.
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5/7/2015 | 11:59:59 AM
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@soozyg- Well, it is interesting. There's been a lot of backlash to Age of Ultron because it didn't take that time to really develop the characters. I think people want it all. A blockbuster can get by on action, but the truly memorable ones have character and intimacy. That's why we go back to the original Star Trek and forget the remake. That's why we love the original Star Wars andhate the prequels.
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5/7/2015 | 10:59:42 AM
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@Dave, interesting take. I get it.

 

The smaller, tighter shots require the writers and actors create higher emotional stakes. It is a good thing.

Yes, I agree it was a good thing. I think with Star Wars, though, it really has to do with the technology, not the emotion. Maybe the audience has changed? Audiences now want to see that big stuff because it's cool to look at and they're thinking, look what they did, as opposed to thinking about the consequences and emotionality of the situation.

 
David Wagner
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5/4/2015 | 5:52:48 PM
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@soozyg- I don't know if I have the movie making vocabularly to really describe what I mean. But when you think of Star Wars, you seldom see more than a few people or things on the screen. And when you see people, the camera angles are pretty tight on the face or the conversation. 

This was partially intentional (to look like a western) but also because they needed to hide the lack of tech and didn't have the budget to throw in 500 hundred storm troopers. Lucas added a bunch more in during later CGI revisisons. 

A very large percentage of the final fight we just see a close up of Luke in the pilot seat. When the Falcon is running from the empire, most of the shots are of Han and Chewie in the cockpit. Contrast that to the later movies where the fight is full of thousands of ships in space darting around in every dirction with stunning pictures of the planet below. 

Another example is the light saber fights. Think of the fight where Vader kills Obi-Wan. They actual move very little and they talk quite a lot. Compare that to the fight against Dath Maul which is about giant acrobatics between combatants that don't talk or have any personal or emotional stake. 

The smaller, tighter shots require the writers and actors create higher emotional stakes. It is a good thing.
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5/4/2015 | 5:42:12 PM
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@zerox203- Happy Birthday! I'll check out the link. But I'm guessing you are right about the event being past. It really was a great weekend. Throw in the realease of the Avengers, the Kentucky Derby, the NFL draft, and the "fight of the century" and I couldn't keep up with all of it. 

What I like about Disney is they were pretty understated on their May the 4th festivities. They opened up a few things for free streaming for the week (rebels, lego series, etc) and did some marathons on their cable channel. That wasn't too bad.Hopefully, they know an organic thing when they see it.

As for the dance number, just so you know, that was at Disney, but it wasn't created by Disney. That was a fan created show as part of a costume competition. Disney did not sully the Vader name. :)
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5/4/2015 | 5:36:37 PM
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@Dave, interesting description. Ok, I'm curious

Disney made Avengers 2 the biggest movie I've eer seen in terms of scope. I'd rather them not do that to Star Wars. i would have preferred a much more intimate movie than it looks like we'll get from the trailers.

To you, what does biggest with most scope vs. intimate mean to you?
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5/4/2015 | 5:28:58 PM
Best Ways to Celebrate May the Fourth Be With You
Incidentally, my birthday is the 3rd of May, so I've been enjoying May the 4th's increasing popularity in recent years (according to some random googling, the origin of the 'holiday' may go back as far as the 70s) as a sort of extended birthday. For those that don't know, "Free Comic Book Day" is also the first Saturday in May (which, as luck would have it, was the 2nd this year - sorry if you missed it). You can go into (most) local comic shops and grab a couple of free comics from a variety of choices printed just for the occasion, and they usually also do some special promotions to go along with it (for example, at my local New Englang Comics, I was able to walk out with 5 free books without spending a cent). According to the official website, it's an international event, but I think it's mostly in the US.

Throw in Cinco De Mayo for good measure, and nerds are having a pretty good week. There may be more as-yet-untapped nerd synergy here... though I would trust Disney not to miss an opportunity to maximize their dark-side marketing powers for long. Speaking of which,  I don't mind a little schtick, but I know Star Wars fans who would cringe at that dance number (and I sent it to them). Remember, the movie will already be out by this time next year, so I'd expect even more of that. We'll see if that's a good or a bad thing. By the way, Dave, it seems the link you shared for the special May 4th event at Space Center Houston is not working - although, it looks like the link to the page right from their website results in a 404 as well. Maybe they took it down since the event is already taking place.
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5/4/2015 | 12:48:31 PM
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@soozyg- I'll be the first to say that I was a bit uncomfortable with Disney buying Star Wars when it first happened. But the Marvel movies have totally made me comfortable with this. My childhood was comic books and Star Wars. They nailed the comics. I'm willing to give them the chance on Star Wars.

I will say this, though. I think what I like about the original Star Wars is that it was actually very small and self-contained for budget reasons. Every version since has gotten bigger, and in my opinion, worse for it. Disney made Avengers 2 the biggest movie I've eer seen in terms of scope. I'd rather them not do that to Star Wars. i would have preferred a much more intimate movie than it looks like we'll get from the trailers.
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5/4/2015 | 8:27:00 AM
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Spend all day complaining that Disney owns Star Wars now. 

I would love to do this! I hate Disney and how they swallow up everything. Usually people are annoyed by my ranting, but now there's a day during which it's condoned! I feel better now.
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5/4/2015 | 1:57:00 AM
11. The Force Awaken
Will spend the day realizing that the trailer of movies such as, Jupiter Ascending, etc., were successfully delivered to my attention but, I had no idea that for the 18th of December a new Star Wars movie was in development, thank you. Terminator Genisys will also be released on the 1st of July -- its trailer is 5 months old!
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