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StaceyE
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2/28/2015 | 11:36:15 AM
Re: You can still have havoc without imagination
I think any type of AI that could potentially make decisions like you describe very scary. 
StaceyE
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2/28/2015 | 11:33:07 AM
Re: From where will computers get their paranoia?
@ Charlie

I agree with you completely. I don't think a computer will ever have the capability of that type of conciousness...even if someone tried to progrm it in....
StaceyE
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2/28/2015 | 11:30:19 AM
Re: I am human hear me roar
@ vnewman2

I bet those people are the same ones who believe a computer can not make mistakes. I have actually had to explain that "the data the computer is using to give you information was put into the computer by a human being, who of course could very well have mad a mistake". Sometimes that explanation worked, and other times it turned into a whole new "argument".
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2/28/2015 | 12:30:23 AM
Re: You can still have havoc without imagination
This might be an oversimplification, but I've always felt like anything we program would have our general respect for life as a part of the programming. Or that, at worst, we could create the "good" AI to fight the "bad" AI someone else made. I feel like AI is more of a battleground than a threat.
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2/27/2015 | 11:30:57 AM
You can still have havoc without imagination
Any AI system might lack the imagination to become a movie style super villian, but a minor flaw in the 'learning' portion of an AI system could cause havoc. The movies take these ideas to the Nth degree where rthe 'logical' conclusion is to delete the humans so the self aware computer may continue. What if a learning AI system decided to increase traffic efficiency by eliminating yellow lights over 20 city blocks? There could be hundreds of injuries or deaths or before it 'learned' that humans don't have instant reaction time. At any point where an entity learns and applies that information there is the possibility for havoc if the learning isn't complete. In humans we call this growing up and it takes a long time with lots of supervision and during that time the ones growing up rarely have control over any kind of critical computer system. While it might not even be possible to develop an evil computer like Hal, it seems like it might be entirely possible to create something where havoc could ensue.
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2/25/2015 | 4:30:29 PM
report
"12 risks that threaten human civilization," according to a new report from...
I thought for a moment there that report was from The Onion.
Anyway, I agree with Dr. Adjaoute, the threat of AI is "vastly overblown."
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2/25/2015 | 3:53:56 PM
Re: From where will computers get their paranoia?
The original for that self-protective behavior was "Colossus, the Forbin Project", a made-for-TV movie that came out in the 1950s.   The human machine manager did defeat him, though.   An interesting monument to Cold War paranoia.
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2/25/2015 | 3:53:55 PM
Re: From where will computers get their paranoia?
The original for that self-protective behavior was "Colossus, the Forbin Project", a made-for-TV movie that came out in the 1950s.   The human machine manager did defeat him, though.   An interesting monument to Cold War paranoia.
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2/25/2015 | 2:46:27 PM
Re: From where will computers get their paranoia?
Charlie, I guess I was thinking about programming for the computer to protect itself, the "self awareness" you see in so many movies. My favorite example is in Eagle Eye, where the Big Brother computer discovered the humans wanted to unplug him. He took care of that problem. :-)

Again, I want to be clear I'm being very tongue in cheek discussing this. We are nowhere near the level of programming in AI where what I describe above is feasible. And it is quite possible we will never get there. But in case we do, I sure hope the scientists have watched these movies....
tzubair
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2/25/2015 | 2:35:15 PM
Re: I am human hear me roar
"would it be possible for an AI who is created to make decisions about systems (such as an AI system that is dedicated to reacting proactively to manage internal IT systems for critical infrastructure) to reach out and decide that it can make beneficial changes to systems where it honestly shouldn't even connect to"

@Stratustician: I think the use of AI for managing internal IT systems can be useful but it will have its own set of restrictions. You may make decisions in the run time such as how to manage the VMs when the load goes up or how to switch to an alternate network when a failure occurs, but when it comes to changing physical configurations, this won't be as easy.
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