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Gigi3,
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3/17/2015 | 3:34:44 AM

Re: 6 Internet Of Things Building Blocks

Sane I meant the same and mentioned it through one of my previous comments

""you are right. Instead of pushing or holding more data; we have to think in other way "more meaningful data presented in a meaningful way" .

Representing the datas in a sensible way is more important than storing junk values.

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SaneIT,
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3/13/2015 | 8:20:45 AM

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@Gigi3, in most cases no. For example let's say you have an application where pressure is being measured and let's say 30-35PSI is "normal" and fluctuation is expected so you have a chart of entries every 30 seconds and it looks like 30,32,30,30,34,33,30,31,32,30,30,32, and it goes on like that for months, do you really need each and every 30 second interval? Or is what you need a single entry that reads "normal" for several months and an entry that reads "high" if the pressure creeps up past your "normal" threshold? Keeping each entry is going to take up space, slow down queries over time and just turn into a blur of numbers. This kind of data presentation tends to put the average person to sleep and your data folks just end up averaging those numbers out anyway because they know that no one wants to see one digit intervals on a chart when those intervals don't have any real meaning. Spread that out of over a few years and hundreds of sensors and you can see how this data set could get out of control and still have very little useful data in it.

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Gigi3,
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3/13/2015 | 5:59:43 AM

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"I'd say that a vast majority of the data could be thrown out milliseconds after it is captured. Data that does not fall outside of a normal range can just be tagged with the rest of the "everything is normal" data using a floating timestamp. It's not until things change that IoT really becomes powerful. Those changes are what make seeing the data useful. "

SaneIT, thanks for the clarification. You mean that datas beyond the boundary values atre using only for decision making and won't relevant to it in any other respect?

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SaneIT,
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3/10/2015 | 8:16:49 AM

Re: 6 Internet Of Things Building Blocks

@Gigi3, I'd say that a vast majority of the data could be thrown out milliseconds after it is captured. Data that does not fall outside of a normal range can just be tagged with the rest of the "everything is normal" data using a floating timestamp. It's not until things change that IoT really becomes powerful. Those changes are what make seeing the data useful.

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Gigi3,
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3/9/2015 | 11:59:34 PM

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"I know that makes sense to build out systems that present this massive collection of data in meaningful chunks but I see very few who are going this route. Most of the IoT applications I see don't really define what they are going to do with the data. In many cases the best interface would be a warning light to let people know that some metric is out of an acceptable range then give them the ability to dig deeper. Most of what I have seen is "here we'll throw this pretty graph at you, figure out what to do with it"."

SaneIT, I feel in IoT all data values are sensible. Based on values, various operations or conditions are performed. But whether we need to hold these values for a long time without referring or reusing?

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SaneIT,
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3/6/2015 | 7:53:16 AM

Re: 6 Internet Of Things Building Blocks

@Gigi3, I know that makes sense to build out systems that present this massive collection of data in meaningful chunks but I see very few who are going this route. Most of the IoT applications I see don't really define what they are going to do with the data. In many cases the best interface would be a warning light to let people know that some metric is out of an acceptable range then give them the ability to dig deeper. Most of what I have seen is "here we'll throw this pretty graph at you, figure out what to do with it".

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Gigi3,
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3/5/2015 | 11:41:23 PM

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"you're right that the distinction between precision and accuracy will be made but I also think that what we should see is a shift from the push of more data, more data, more data to, more meaningful data presented in a meaningful way. "

SaneIT, you are right. Instead of pushing or holding more data; we have to think in other way "more meaningful data presented in a meaningful way" .

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Gigi3,
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3/5/2015 | 11:39:13 PM

Re: IoT based devices

"while a part of me agrees that we're likely to run short of bandwidth, another part of me is convinced that we're building better bandwidth into our infrastructure at such a pace that it's likely to at least keep pace with the demand. I was talking with someone today who said that they're dropping twin CAT 6A cables to their 802.11n access point sites because they're planning to feed them with 10 Gig ethernet. That's a bunch of bandwidth."

Curt, yes there is no doubt that bandwidth is the back bone of communication channel and its necessity to increase it on demand basis. Our LAN connectivity is 100 Gbps and Wan is 10 Gbps

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Curt Franklin,
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3/5/2015 | 4:32:08 PM

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@Gigi3, while a part of me agrees that we're likely to run short of bandwidth, another part of me is convinced that we're building better bandwidth into our infrastructure at such a pace that it's likely to at least keep pace with the demand. I was talking with someone today who said that they're dropping twin CAT 6A cables to their 802.11n access point sites because they're planning to feed them with 10 Gig ethernet. That's a bunch of bandwidth.

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SaneIT,
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3/3/2015 | 7:57:39 AM

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@Curt, I think you're right that the distinction between precision and accuracy will be made but I also think that what we should see is a shift from the push of more data, more data, more data to, more meaningful data presented in a meaningful way.

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