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December 11 Day 4: Public vs. Private: When to Run Your Own PaaS
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Thanks Joe! Looking forward to tomorrow's chat!

Apprentice
I think that SMBs are best served by vendors, yes--not enough resources to deal with open source.
Ninja

From a SMB mindset, I can see that it might be a good thing if it generates more open source tools but I also don't see a lot of SMBs developing their own PaaS (maybe this is short-sighted). What do you think about open-source PaaS as it specifically pertains to smaller companies? 

Apprentice
I think open source PaaS is generally a good thing, but definitely not a silver bullet. I think the average CIO just benefits from the competition, but also open-source projects help shed more light on details that vendors keep quiet.
Ninja
I think that SLAs are fairly useless because the value we get from IT far exceeds its cost. SLAs, at best, compensate you on a cost basis. So I prefer to look at track records and at building redundant infrastructures and automated failover.
Ninja

Also, can you talk a little bit about the Cloud Foundry announcement this week, about the plans for an open source PaaS project? What does the average CIO stand to gain from that initiative? 

Apprentice

I'm curious about SLAs with public clouds... obviously there's some negotiation room if you're a larger company with a PaaS vendor, but for smaller companies that don't have quite as much negotiation heft, what do you recommend for strategy in vendor negotiations? 

Apprentice
In practice, automation is harder on private clouds because they tend to be less "cloudy" than public clouds. Theoretically, they should be the same.
Ninja
I think the biggest misconception is that public cloud is like private cloud... they are very different beasts.
Ninja

Also, is automation tougher on public versus private clouds? Which is easier to automate (I suspect the answer might be "it depends" and if so, can you explain?)

Apprentice

What would you say is the biggest public misconception about public versus private cloud (or perhaps the biggest CIO misconception)?

Apprentice
@Wendy-- I consider separate public and private to not be hybrid, yes.
Ninja
@Wendy-- I think the best way to combat auditor bias is to enlist your vendor.
Ninja

"Hybrid is a classic case of a terrible compromise" in that application. I wouldn't consider a private app and a public app running on different clouds to be hybrid... isn't it just a parallel process?

Apprentice

How can IT reduce some of that bias with auditors? 

Apprentice

Good point on size of the company when it comes to PaaS

Apprentice

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