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November 7 - Day 5: Harnessing the Hybrid Cloud
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Don't get me started on the telco monopolies. I'm already riled about the spectrum situation.

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Because we have a set of quasi-monopolies in WAN delivery, we see the Telcos attempting to make huge profits from capital, rather than replacing and keeping up. The long-term impact to the US economy will be painful. 

You know this is an issue when a CEO cites the expense of fitting farmhouses in the mioddle of Kansas as a reason for not installing fibre in New York!

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Yes, I can imagine cranky notes to the helpdesk.

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Lorna - Going back to the WAN bandwidth issue - Having fibre links makes a huge difference in productivity. Studies show we have an attention span of justy 0.25 seconds, and the cost of losing attention, and having to wait, is high. I've noticed a big gain in productivity just by upgrading from 6 MbPS to 24MbPS, but I still get frustrating waits, and uploads are slow.

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RoyB - I would think you'd want to work with bare metal servers with a hypervisor if building your inhouse solution.

Building up and tearing down images on your public cloud can be controlled from a PC. Generating the image is a bit more complicated, since it would typically involve using the OS that it would run on in the cloud.

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The federation issue makes cloud solutions more attractive. If say a group of shippers and their customers get together to optimise deliery flow, having a solution they can expand quickly as new members arrive, that can be outside of any companies control, and so on suggests the cloud.

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Well, for example, suppose I want to install LINUX in a virtual system. 

Apprentice

Project management - The cloud allows better tools and sharing, espceially if the projects cover multiple sites. As we add SaaS mashups, a cloud based solution makes more sense

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I heard the earlier audio presentation and have the slides but I don;t hear anythging on the live chat.  How do I activate that?

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RoyB It depends what you are trying to do

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The Wan problem means that you need a data strategy that avoids moving data through WANS as much as possible. If the data can vbe fragmented, it can be split between in-house and public spaces, but this is an issue that you need to watch for.

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Re Sandbox  --  Can we use the built in features of Win 7 Professional to set up a virtual system without using another sandbox program?

Apprentice

"extraordinary" is a nice way of putting it.

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But what about the need for speed in big data analysis versus the WAN bandwidth limitations around cloud?

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Ahh, @Lorna, that makes a huge difference. I know that companies like Microsoft are pushing the "everything in the cloud" model for development: I agree with you that it seems absolutely critical to make sure that project management is absolutely aligned with an individual company's needs.

Strategist

@Curt, the survey is of the DDJ audience, and they indicated a lot of use of cloud-based project management for dev products. I find that odd, because if any role needs to be in tune with business needs and in-house resources, it's project management.

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Hey, job security is as good a reason as any to do private cloud.

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@Lorna, the result on cloud project management is interesting: Do you get the sense that a lot of companies are adopting that model, or is it something that vendors are offering in advance of any real demand?

Strategist

Sound is very clear now, thanks

 

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one interesting area that popped up in an app dev survey is project management as a service. That strikes me as a cloud bridge too far.

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Jim has had a bit of difficulty with his connection this morning. We went through a trouble-shooting process and this is as good as we've been able to achieve, today. Our apologies for the technical difficulties.

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Wow, that's exciting!

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Does it seem like when you need federation among many partners, cloud is a good bet as opposed to trying to open your firewalls?

 

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Should governance be a function of an enterprise's cloud broker? 

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Yes it is muffled for me. Sounds like it is being skyped.

Apprentice

Sound is a bit muffled for me ... anyone else?

 

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Hi all -Audio is live! If you don't see the audio bar at the top of the screen, please refresh your browser. It may take a couple tries. When you see the audio bar, if it doesn't start automatically, hit the play button. If you experience audio interruptions and are using IE, try using FF or Chrome as your browser. Many people experience issues with IE. Also, make sure your flash player is updated with the current version. Some companies block live audio streams, so if that is the case for your company, the class will be archived on this page immediately following the class and you can listen then. People don't experience any issues with the audio for the archived version.

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We'd love to have your voice in the class discussion here. To take part, just type your comment or question into the "Your Post" box and then click on the "Post" button below the box. Feel free to introduce yourself before the class starts -- I think you'll find that we're a very friendly learning community here! 

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Hey, everyone, we're glad you could join us! When the show is scheduled to start, at 2:00 p.m. EST, an audio player should appear above the "Your Post" window. If it doesn't appear, you might need to refresh your browser until it does. If it appears but doesn't start playing, then you may need to click on the "play" button on the far left of the player. 

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