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rradina
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10/14/2014 | 7:04:45 PM
Re: If Windows has never succeeded on an ARM device...
What about ARM requires changes? It's still a general purpose CPU albeit RISC vs CISC but NT was birthed on RISC CPUs in addition to CISC. What architectural changes did Google make to Linux that made it more suitable for either ARM or ultra mobile devices?
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10/14/2014 | 4:40:00 PM
Re: If Windows has never succeeded on an ARM device...
Google has made architectural changes to Android (which is based on Linux) to fit ARM/phones/tablets.

There is nothing wrong with using NT but they have to strip it down, made changes (like Google,Apple). They can't just strip it down, change GUI and push it to other devices. It works for them on other devices(ATM,POS,etc) but on phones,tablets they fail again and again.

 
rradina
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10/14/2014 | 4:23:13 PM
Re: If Windows has never succeeded on an ARM device...
The core of Linux seems to work well on everything.  What makes NT different and unsuitable for ARM vs. Intel?
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10/14/2014 | 2:04:22 PM
Re: If Windows has never succeeded on an ARM device...
No! The reason they fail because instead of comming up with a new architecture on Arm, they force windows down to arm. It was started by Gates. Force Windows on everything. Windows CE was terrible. Windows 8 on arm is not that great.

Except GUIs, nothing changed. All latest windows are still based on NT architecture (which was based on OS2 and DEC VMS).
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10/14/2014 | 11:26:21 AM
If Windows has never succeeded on an ARM device...
...the probable reason is that MS made a deliberate decision to cripple Windows on that architecture.

 
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10/14/2014 | 11:24:36 AM
Re: Long Game
Tying onesself to a single hardware manufacturer strikes me as being just about as intelligent as tying oneself to a single software developer.

 
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10/14/2014 | 10:07:33 AM
Re: App Gap...
"Regardless of how great Windows 10 is, Microsoft still has the touch app gap problem.  Even Microsoft has yet to release Office for the Windows touch UI!"


Agreed. As I indicated a few times in the article, it's getting harder to see how Microsoft's going to make Modern touch apps relevant. I actually think the Windows 8.1 desktop is fine, lack of a Start menu aside, and I think the Windows 10 desktop looks quite good. But Microsoft better have an ace up its sleeve for the tablet/smartphone versions. Cortana is impressive, and we'll see Modern Office sooner than later... but that's not enough to make Windows tablets as useful as tablets as an iPad or Android slate. The Surface Pro 3 is a pretty nice laptop that has confined touch/pen uses-- but not something that works as a pure tablet.
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10/14/2014 | 9:27:59 AM
App Gap...
Regardless of how great Windows 10 is, Microsoft still has the touch app gap problem.  Even Microsoft has yet to release Office for the Windows touch UI!

Since the appearance of the iPhone, I think Microsoft has fumbled the ball too many times.  Perhaps it's just me but this battle feels like the decades old Windows vs. OS/2 throw down.  However, this time Windows is OS/2.  We all know how that story ended.

When I look at the Surface Pro line, they are expensive but seem like great devices.  However, what makes them great?  They are great because they are thin, light, power efficient and can replace a laptop because they can run Windows desktop apps.  Regardless of the quantity of apps in the Windows store, there's still a huge app gap and there doesn't seem to be any developer enthusiasm for Windows touch apps.  If this isn't corrected, Windows is a dead man walking.
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10/13/2014 | 7:51:59 PM
ARM has lead in low power consumption
Intel has done a good job of taking away some of the reasons to buy ARM, mainly by lowering power consumption of its Atom and some versions of Xeon chips. But it's hard to believe Intel will ever lead in that area. Rather it will follow when it's forced to. And ARM has been instrumental in cutting down the battery power pull of mobile device chips. 
Lorna Garey
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10/13/2014 | 11:09:47 AM
Long game
All software companies should be aiming for hardware agnosticity as a long-term goal. ARM today, who knows what tomorrow? Maybe we'll be running OSes in our DNA. But one thing seems sure - tying yourself to one chip maker isn't smart.
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