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kstaron
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8/27/2014 | 2:39:41 PM
leaf uses
I'm imagining a layer of artifical leaveson every high way median strip and factory roofs as a way of cleansing the air pollution befre it gets to the atmosphere, plus it's the one thing I could keep 'alive' in my house and still get the o2 and filtration benefits of a houseplant. I hope this helps in getting us to Mars as we pepper the place with them making it a 'green' planet.
Michelle
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8/17/2014 | 7:54:37 PM
Re: Cruel planet; no vacancy
@Dave yes, it's sad. I'm glad there have been no manditory trips to outer space for anyone.
SaneIT
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8/7/2014 | 7:03:17 AM
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I would like to think that we are better than that but we had an issue with a bear that attacked someone in their garage.  I think when it was all said and done local authorities killed 5 bears and still didn't know for sure if they got the one that perpetrated the attack.  We like to think we're above the obliterate them all mentality but we really aren't.  Look at how the war in the Middle East went in the 90's  I can't tell you how many times I heard the term glass parking lot.  To that point we're the ones creating these AIs, how can we expect them to behave any better?
David Wagner
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8/6/2014 | 1:45:49 PM
Re: Mars
@David Wagner, have you ever walked into a building infested with roaches?  Arguably we are the superior race and what is our first reaction?  Obliterate them all...  I'm not saying our robot overlords will see us the same way but I could see that kind train of thought going.  


Oooh....nice argument, SaneIt. I guess i meant superior to us. As in the best parts of us. 

But there's also a difference in life form level.

Humans, for the most part, don't go into a building infested with monkeys and wipe them all out. We wouldn't find a lake full of dolphins and take them down so we could swim in it. We recognize animals that are more intelligent or more similar to us and we are nicer to them.

Since we're creating the artificial intelligence, i would assume it would think of us like a monkey-- a less smart verison of us.
David Wagner
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8/6/2014 | 1:41:21 PM
Re: Cruel planet; no vacancy
@Michelle- Sadly, I think we can guarantee someone will die. The loss of life to get to the moon was tragic, but probably unavoidable. We still have plane crashes so doing something as crazy as going to Mars is going to mean some loses. I guess that's why driving, flying, and space travel is all-volunteer.
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8/6/2014 | 9:28:36 AM
Re: Mars
@David, that's a good point. If solar energy is cheaper and closer to home -- going to a far off planet, moon or asteroid would not be feasible. Since solar panels have been dropping in prices at 7 percent a year, solar panels seem like the best option going forward. Helium 3 came to my mind because a few have actually speculated that it might be feasible to mine helium 3 for energy usages. Maybe in the future, some other types of rare earth metals are mined from space to meet the demand for technology or healthcare, etc.
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8/6/2014 | 7:19:56 AM
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@Gary_EL, it may not be a big problem for the next few generations but now is the time that AI is taking root.  Planning smartly now could help avoid crazy situations in the future.  Watson is a good example.  We have built a trivia AI that everyone is looking at for novel new projects.  
SaneIT
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8/6/2014 | 7:17:06 AM
Re: Mars
@David Wagner, have you ever walked into a building infested with roaches?  Arguably we are the superior race and what is our first reaction?  Obliterate them all...  I'm not saying our robot overlords will see us the same way but I could see that kind train of thought going.  We do quite a bit of mess making and a race that likes things a bit cleaner might see fit to squash us rather than try and train us.
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8/5/2014 | 10:49:43 PM
Re: Cruel planet; no vacancy
@Dave good point. I have no answers. I really don't want people dying on the way to Mars.
David Wagner
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8/5/2014 | 5:44:30 PM
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I'd much rather have them fight on Mars then here on Earth. That way, innocent bystanders (like me) won't get hurt. Would you rather see a couple of dozen get killed on Mars than a couple of billion on Earth?


I suspect that the fight would spill over either way. That's why I favor an internaitonal effort. 
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