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Michael Endler
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7/24/2014 | 4:37:36 PM
Re: What?
True, the universal apps I've seen so far seem sort of rudimentary compared to some of the complexity one would expect if this premise has legs. This line of talks has been percolating throughout the Microsoft camp since before Nadella took over, so we'll see if they can pull it off.
Thomas Claburn
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7/24/2014 | 4:29:07 PM
Re: What?
> if you're a Windows developer, it doesn't matter whether you're writing apps primarily for the desktop, for tablets, or for phones-- you'll still have a framework that allows you to target the other form factors without re-writing code

I'll be impressed if Microsoft can make that a reality. Developing software for multiple devices isn't always just a matter of different builds for different devices. Sometimes what works on one form factor fails on another.
Laurianne
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7/24/2014 | 12:22:46 PM
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Nadella is never going to sound like an everyman. But must he, to get his job done? 
rradina
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7/24/2014 | 12:02:53 PM
Re: 'One Windows' a marketing ploy
Don't discount this working both ways.  As I write this, the Windows Phone store has an Ookla speed test app.  However, the Windows 8 desktop modern app store doesn't have an equivalent.  I suspect Ookla expects Windows 8 folks to use the flash app.  While that app does work, it's built with Flash and makes extensive use of mouse "hover" events.  This makes it very difficult to use the app on a Windows tablet.  If Windows 9 and subsequent versions of Windows Phone deliver Microsoft's vision, Ookla's single app (perhaps built first or only for the phone) would also run on Windows tablets and cleanup the poor user experience when the mouse is not part of the primary UI experience.
Shane M. O'Neill
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7/24/2014 | 11:20:30 AM
Re: 'One Windows' a marketing ploy
Ok, I can see the opportunity for the developer: write one app, get a potentially large audience -- when you factor in all Windows users. But still, developers need to consider whether the Windows Phone user base will ever grow enough (or at all) to justify putting effort into Windows app dev over Android or iOS.
rradina
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rradina,
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7/24/2014 | 11:01:19 AM
Re: 'One Windows' a marketing ploy
It might be marketing for consumers but if I understand him correctly, a developer can write a single app and push it to the store where customers can install it on a phone, tablet, laptop, desktop or server.  Granted, such an application could end up being a great phone app with a less-than-optimal UX on the other devices.  Java promised this many, many years ago but if the same OS is really running on all devices, Microsoft might actually deliver Java's promise with even fewer compromises than Java required.

Another possibility is if Microsoft gets enough traction in Windows land with this scheme, what if in the near future they followed Java by trying to take their common app environment to Linux, Android, iOS and OSX?
Shane M. O'Neill
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7/24/2014 | 10:37:05 AM
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I tend to agree with you. Nadella is an intellectual and gets caught up in high-minded rhetroic (with occasional lapses into business-speak). He's not unlike Pres. Obama in that sense. Earnest but a bit too cerebral. He needs to incorporate more bullet points into his arsenal.
Shane M. O'Neill
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Shane M. O'Neill,
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7/24/2014 | 10:27:09 AM
'One Windows' a marketing ploy
I suppose Microsoft is doing what it should. It should simplify Windows to "One Windows" across all devices. It's good branding. But the OS doesn't matter anymore for getting stuff done across devices. MS was doing the same sales pitch when Windows 8 released, saying that Windows Phone was compatible with Win 8 and you could work seamlessly between PC, tablet, and phone. But in reality, diversity rules and cloud-based apps connect the dots. Just yesterday, I dropped some photos from my Android phone in Dropbox and accessed them on my work Mac. Added to my to-do list in Evernote on my Windows 7 PC, and viewed the list later on my Android phone. Added songs to Spotify on my Android tablet, and listened to them later on the Windows 7 PC. You get the point. "One Windows" is good marketing, but that's about it.
sonicmetalman
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7/24/2014 | 10:26:34 AM
interpretation
I have the highest hopes for Nadella but I really wish he would back off from the ethereal babble. Going with "less is more" here just created a head-scratching WTF moment for me. Microsoft appears to be operating like an oil tanker without a rudder.

My two cents.
Jfromny
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7/24/2014 | 9:35:43 AM
Re: What?
Ahh, that is much more understandable.  Much thanks for the clarification.  :)
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