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Can you expand on live cycle question- compartibilty of apps to future release considering apps evolution is probably a order of magnitude slower than devices, on the converse, device life time to secure nvestment in older technologies.

Apprentice

great discussion today  ty  back to work

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Rich, have a good one... I'm off to flatlands to do-  mowing lawn... 

Ninja

Rich, Intel is from my planet... all I could say:) lol

Ninja

Rich they did cheat you:) I think... as when I got to intel gold level sales they did send me Intel led light sign...

Ninja

@Rich:  But I can get you a great deal on Dell Venue Pro compatible power adapters ...   ;)

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yes... bye for now :)

Ninja

is it over?

 

Apprentice

as WD and Intel do :)

Ninja

Rich if you sign up with Dell and do few big sales I think the Dell will give you few of this Dell neon sign :)

Ninja

Rich :) lol lol lol

Ninja

until next time 

Ninja

thanks again. goodbye everybody

Apprentice

very infomative.

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leaned so much, really appreciate it.

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Thanks, guys, have a great day! I hope I'll see everyone around the site!

Ninja
Thanks all of u here!learnt a lot.
Ninja

thanks for info about venuepo

Apprentice

Many thanks, again!

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One thing as to the Dell Venue Pro tablets:  it really is like having a full Windows laptop in your (large) pocket.  And it really is do-able and works!  :)

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@Joe/Katie, right, the reality is that we can barely stop our employees from doing things we don't want with their mobile devices. Good luck trying to stop customers from doing it! The old expression 'if you can't be 'em, join 'em!' comes to mind. The least you can do about something like this now is to ignore it, but you're probably better off to do something positive. You certainly can't do anything to deter it!

Ninja

Thank you all! A great presentation

Apprentice

thanks for the preso

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It has been fun chatting with you all today. Until the next one!

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@Ashu:  a very real point (as to gas cost).  Especially in larger urban area, a trip to a specialty store can add $4-$6 cost to a trip.

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@zerox - I would absolutely recommend the Dell Venue tablets to them! :)

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@Ashu001, Well, you wouldn't find me in an Apple store.  So the logo would be there, I just wouldn't see it :). I guess that's fine with me.

Ninja
@joe-dont forget gas is at 4 dollars now.we can't waste it on frivolous trips anymore.
Ninja

Ha - you posted thoughts about the same paragraph!

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Joe - I did find some stats at the bottom of that article about conversion trends. "et another change under way relates to something you see all the time: the practice known as "showrooming." Increasingly, customers with smartphones are checking out products and competitors' prices online as they roam the aisles of brick-and-mortar stores.

Early on, Lobaugh says, some retailers were unhappy about the trend and weren't keen to embrace it.

But "our data would say don't resist it," Lobaugh notes. "Give them the capability. Enable Wi-Fi in your store so that the consumer can access more information, because the conversion rate goes up," he says — meaning, smartphone-toting customers who do research on the sales floor are actually much more likely to make a purchase.

And by 2016, Deloitte projects, roughly one in five consumers will be using their smartphones in precisely that way."

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@zerox-not even in an apple store?lol!
Ninja

thanks for a link

Ninja

And I totally agree about enabling/embracing showrooming.  This was discussed at a recent analytics summit I went to too.

For my own part, if I look up the item online and see it's $9 cheaper on the other side of town, maybe I still buy it from you anyway because I don't want to go to the other side of town... But if I don't have the capability, maybe I leave and come back.

I remember when I needed to buy a suit in a semi-emergency because I was on vacation but something had come up for the next day and I wouldn't have time to go home.  I wound up spending an afternoon visiting almost every store on the street... eventually went back to the first store I started at and bought TWO suits.  Would have been so much nicer if showrooming had been an option at that store so I could have saved time AND money (gas).

@rich-yes busting of the search bubble will not be welcome.results will be messy for sure.
Ninja

THANK YOU NICE PRESENTATION

Apprentice

@Katie, and anyway, as you said that was back in 2012. Of course, in 2014, you would recommend that Nordstrom make the switch to Dell Venue tablets? Because, even with my device-agnostic hat on, that's exactly what I think. I don't want to see an Apple logo in a retail store.

Ninja

great info/ideas

Ninja

Thanks again, @Sara and @Sean, and everyone. I'll see you next time. :) 

Also, yes...I realize that is a case study for Apple devices. With my device agnostic hat on, I appreciate their forward motion into incorporating tablets in retail, so I don't mind giving them the hat-tip regardless of their hardware choice.

Apprentice

Surprised myself to see it was written in 2012! :)

Apprentice

Sweet.  Thanks, Katie.  (looking at article now)

Here is an article on the Nordstrom use in retail. http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/12/10/166890714/forget-the-register-stores-use-mobile-to-make-sales-on-the-spot

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@zerox: Already, the technology exists to combine video retail analytics w/ CRM... so let's say you notice the customer picked up the item, then put it back.  A mobile notification gets sent to their phone (if they're subscribed to it), or gets sent to the device of a nearby floor person, offering that customer 10% off the item.

@Joe - not that I have read recently, but that is a good question. I think they would rather you buy online, possibly offer free shipping if you buy it while you're in store - or in-store pickup for free...over you leaving and buying it elsewhere.

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@Joe, I don't know, I've seen at least one around. Definitely think we have less than most places, though.

Ninja
@waqas-frankly speaking its not easy.
Ninja

@Joe, right, good point. Many people say they're just put off by salespeople approaching them, regardless of what they have in their hands or how helpful they are. I wonder if the 'all-mobile' strategy can actually help with this? Certainly, it seems like analytics could play a role and that info could be pushed to the worker's device. Maybe that's still a little too sci-fi, though.

Ninja

@zerox: There's a Nordstrom nearish to Copley, isn't there?  Dartmouth Street, I think?  Or am I confusing it w/ Lord & Taylor?



could not agree more

Ninja

@Katie: I'm surprised more department stores don't do it.

But on the other hand, a question.  Many stores sort of DEPEND upon people browsing/impulse-buying.  Is there any research/insight you're aware of in terms of how to deploy a retail brick-and-mortar mobile strategy effectively in a balanced way -- so that you're not cutting the customer off/preempting the customer from making an additional purchase while browsing vs. the problem of your sales staff is difficult to find?

 

Thanks IW team for the show.

Ninja

@KatieG, oh, cool! I guess I don't really shop at Nordstrom's. To me, all that kind of stuff still sounds very sci-fi, because I don't see it that much around here (and I live in Boston - I thought we were the tech capital of the east coast?). I'm very jealous of everyone talking about it, but maybe I just haven't been looking in the right places. Certainly appreciate all the work Dell does in this regard.

Ninja

Will the tablet used for payment information need to comply with pci, and how about the infrastructure?

Apprentice

@Michael, the program continues here with discussion with Sean, who is probably on his way to the chat room.

Many thanks for the program--should have been an hour!

Apprentice

@Ashu001    Or you have a Mac that you insists on using Flash on.....will burn you up in a matter of minutes !

Ninja

@xerox - Nordstrom is a great example of retail employees walking throughout the store with a tablet. They can look up inventory in the back, inventory in other stores, place orders, and accept your payment, if you are ready to purchase.

Apprentice

@Katie: Thanks!  Looking forward to the Latitude feature when that comes out (I like the build of Latitudes way more than almost any other non-"rugged" laptop I've ever used.  Even aside from good parts, they're pretty sturdy.  I had a D300-something series in law school that I dropped a zillion times on hard tile, city sidewalk pavement, etc....  A couple of tiny marks but the thing still ran like a champ.)

Great Show, Thanks

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I think this concept is now getting matured and CIOs are knowledgeable about how to separate the unsecure apps from the secured corporate ones.

Ninja

@KatieG:  Plus, it sould be great if Dell actively participated in its online Users Mobile Devices forum.  We rarely see Dell folks there anymore, providing official support.  Please come!

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@susan-most machines when they get a little over 2 years old heatup like crazy.
Ninja

If you mean the heat in Texas - apparently there is no solution - it is hot today in Austin.

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@Rich   No one seems to be able to solve that one.  I don't see it happening anytime soon either.

Ninja

heating and mobile?????

Apprentice

@Ashu, what heating issues?

Heating issues?

Apprentice
What about heating issues?is that easily solvable today?
Ninja

@Rich  Interesting way of putting it: "can't forget [candy crush] --it's the poster boy for why BYOD is a headache for IT."  I'd think that candy crush is fairly innocuous, because it doesn't need to access as much as something like email or Facebook. Maybe I'm wrong.

Definitely not as cute as Candy Crush though

Ninja

Yes EMM provides access to corporate data/apps in a container - separate from Candy Crush or other consumer apps.  But hey - don't worry about Candy Crush - studies show that peopl with access to corporate email on their smartphone work 240 to 500 more hour per year  Candy Crush is not a threat.

 

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@Sean, absolutely. You make a great case from your end as the one making the tablet, and the Venue tablets sound great for that. Still, I've never gone into a shoe store and had an employee do this with me. I see young kids who probably could but aren't given the resources to by their company. I think Dell is doing a great job showing the value of something like that - I Just wish the shoe stores were buying it!

Ninja

@Sara  Love the Dooo....

Ninja
@joe-most companies will tell u that mobility automation is a work in progress.
Ninja

Good to see the old colleagues reunite again

Ninja

@Sara, @Sean: Thanks! Lovely and lively presentation. :D Super. *clap clap clap*

Sara, your awesome interviews are totally recognizable : )

Ninja

@Joe - we sure do...but by a new name! The XPS 12 has a screen that flips, which makes it convertible. We also have a new Latitude product that will have a similar feature. The Venue 11 Pro tablet with the hardshell detachable keyboard (and additional battery) make for a really enticing "convertible" solution.

Apprentice

Thank you

 

Apprentice

It's especially useful/efficient with Dragon.

"mobility automation"

Ninja

nbyuzak, true. That's one of the ideal usage that tablet can offer.

Ninja

Nice to see you Gigi and soozyg and Technocrat and Hospice and Susan! Lots of familiar faces. I'm the only one I don't recognize. Blond!

Ninja

That is cool. After all, now some of those workers might be able to afford that Hot Rod they've been looking at. Jobs are cool! Productivity is cool! That's the only question, really, right? Is this investment going to get me where I want?

Ninja
@waqas-true.because smartphones have become so cheap its more likely that u will end up either losing the employee entirely(productivity wise) or just lose them period.
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@KatieG:  As to Dell Venue Pro accessories, some few accessories, but not alot for the Dell Venue 8 Pro.  For example, nothing as simple as a neoprene sleeve (not a cover case, which there is) in which to put the tablet (including when the tablet is in a Dell case), to protect it.  Likewise, no power-plus-data cable, allowing both power and data to the tablet at the same time.

Also, little Dell info. on how to use Dell accessories.  For example,  there are NO real instructions and use information, beyound a bare sheet, on the use of the Dell active stylus.  Even at the Dell forum, where users have begged for this.  Instead, users are left to guess and experiment.  Not good especially in the business field.  Support is needed and key, beyond the bare tablet itself.  IMHO.

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@ Seano: Sorry, that was related to your below comment.

I know many sales reps that having a Surface has increased there productivity.


I wanted to know whether the productivity was increased because of moving to Surface or just moving to table from any other device.

Ninja

Xerox - Tablets in that retail shoestore are a huge opportunity and a competitive must.  Have you heard of Showrooming?  We all do it - we walk into a store look at those shoes and then check to see the price on Amazon.  With a tablet that shoestore rep can get out from behind the counter - engage with the customer, look for promotions and help close that sale in the store - major benefit to retail

Apprentice

I do agree that IT depts need a mobility expert.

Ninja

@Sara! I love the new look. :) And this presentation is great.

forget candy crush

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@Zerox203 -Completely agreed. They can easily be carrying tablets that check out the availability in the store and/or near stores without the employees having to go back and forth to the storage room. 

Apprentice

@zerox203: So good points there about what is a mobile worker.

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Rich, nice one. Jokes apart, the users need full functionality for consumer usage apps like games on their devices. You can't just offer professional features and apps even on built-for-professional-usage devices.

Ninja

Hello all, sorry I'm late

Ninja

Bhori - Didn't understand your question on surface

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>> When specifying devices and platforms custom apps must support, IT and the business should be in sync and make a collaborative decision. (see http://reports.informationweek.com/abstract/18/11716/Mobility-Wireless/Research:-Building-a-Mobile-Business-Mindset.html)

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Still, I'm not convinced that the average company (like that shoe store) empowers their employees to use this technology in a way that will let them do better work... even when the employees are providing the devices themselves. Seems like a waste of resources.  We should make a bigger push towards that.

Ninja

@Katie: No worries.  Thanks.  :)

Also, I seem to recall Dell used to make a Latitude convertible tablet... I think it was called the XT series???  Does Dell still make those?  I remember having trouble finding them at one point (new, anyway).

EMM doesnt have Candy Crush but it does allow you to keep it outside the container without fear of being wiped by IT.

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@rich-dont forget whatsapp tooo.
Ninja

@sferguson - Dell Services have been developing a lot of enterprise-grade applications for a variety of industries. Insurance, warehouse management, retail, field service...

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That's true. The average american doesn't necessarily work in a place that has desks. They're not 'mobile workers' because they think it's cool, they're 'mobile workers' because they're workers and they're mobile. I never thought about it that way.

Ninja

@ Seano: Is it because specifically having a surface or just any other tablet?

Ninja
@rich-have u noticed that most multicore processor machines don't really deliver an exponentially better performance to the previous older device?too many bottlenecks in performance.mostly at software level now.
Ninja
Tablets are handy
Ninja

@joe - the bottom of this page has links to those accessories. Forgive the streched images - I've raised that issue today. :)  http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/dell-venue-11-pro/pd?p=dell-venue-11-pro&view=pdetails&isredir=true

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Thanks Rich - Companies are not investing in the right areas - when talk to customers - 500 in the last month - everyone has MDM but only about 1% are using tablets with job function applications.

Apprentice

Is anyone working on developing enterprise-grade applications for their own business. How does that jive with the issues of mobility we're facing now?

 

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And the second thing that's most important to me is not having to run Android.  :p

Yes, Sean is very clear, and optimistic -- a good combo

Ninja

Very well said. You don't have to be a 'mobile worker' or a 'power user' for this to affect you. We all use 'mobile' to 'work', even if it's just to answer e-mail while we're in the car. It affects everyone. And it's for that reason that every company ought to pay close attention to their mobile strategy.

Ninja

The thing that's most important to me with a tablet is screen size.  I'd have one with a 15+" screen if I could.

Tablets have the ability to drive such incredible performance improvements in personal productivity and in business process efficiency

 

Apprentice

@seano2577... I think that depending on your need, a tablet can definitly be a good alternative. I know many sales reps that having a Surface has increased there productivity.

Ninja

could not agree more

Ninja
Italy just got knocked out of the world cup.
Ninja

Sean is a good presenter. I like the rythm he has. 

>> I think a lot of enterprises don't understand that a goal is not a strategy.

It's the "mission statement" that will kill you....

Ninja

(for those accessories?)

@david-u need money for that.most firms r too cash strapped currently.
Ninja

@Katie: Can you provide the online shopping link?

Tablets only as a companion is another misconception that we keep believing.  With a Venue 11 Pro with Intel i5 Processor - full image and the attachable keyboard it ca be your only device.  I am using it with the desktop dock which runs two monitors and full keyboard and mouse right now.

 

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@Seano! I think that is enough for what most folks do with laptops either, but it would take time for them to realize.

Ninja

I think that depending on the application and the solution your trying to implement that you'll get a different outcome. For consumer markets, tablets allow for way to compliment Point of Sale system (travel and retail industry), but for Enterprises, there are a slew of concerns accross the board, and some are simple things like trying to determine which device to prefer and it's compability

Ninja

@seano2577 I was thinking   a better UX all around would improve business, but that's more basic

Ninja

Waqas, there's Dave's fav word: phablet

Ninja

@Technorati! :D Good you fixed it. Chrome is working well for me, though. 

Technocrat, finally your nailed it
Ninja

@Dave, it's not like it's untrue, though. When we're on a site like InformationWeek, we're looking at lots of the big players - Google, Miscrosoft, etc. There are tons of smaller companies out there, whose CIOs probably don't read blogs like this (someone should get the word out to them!)... and they probably really don't have an X strategy.

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@MichaelS94   We do offer a full set of peripherials available for the Dell Venue line of tablets. Docking stations, flexible keyboards, hard-shell keyboards, variety of cases, bluetooth keyboards, mobile payment sleeve/card reader, etc.
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@zerox-lol!that's trouble.
Ninja

Bhori :) yeah if that's a commonly accepted terminology. Some people insist that my phone is still not qualified for phablet.

Ninja

I think a lot of enterprises don't understand that a goal is not a strategy.

@ashu001- That might be true about CIOs putting out fires, but if it is, he needs to get his directors on board to fighting fires so he can stop that.

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@S.F.   I was having trouble with chrome....finally got firefox to work

Ninja

Listen - mobile isn't just here - it is the biggest opportunity for businesses to improve their performance. 

Apprentice

I think that the tablet market is still maturing and still trying to find it's place within the multiple eco system that exist. I think the best definition so far has been that tablets are more companion devices, but not a replacement for existing tools.

Ninja

"including some we may not manufacture" How funny. :D

Definitely not companies are aware of mobile solutions that could fit them

Ninja

With the Dell Venue Pro tablets you get the mobile feature set - the ability to view and edit documents with an attachable keyboard that gives you 10 extra hours of battery life.  Plus you can make full HD video calls using Lync and Mobile Broadband on 4G.

 

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@rich-a cio doesn't have time to be cio.hes too busy firefighting today.
Ninja

I'm amazed by how many sentences you can start with "the majority of companies don't havre an X strategy."

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@ Waqas: You already have a phablet

Ninja

Susan, and looks like this discussion on mobile strategy will never end. It will just get newer perspective

Ninja

he's making osme good points, and bascially, Mobile is here, and Dell has a solution

Ninja

The Dell Venue Pro series is nice, BUT, Dell, you need to have a full series of accessories for it, rather than leaving it to the consumers to scrounge and guess ...  And, you then should increase your profits as well.  

Apprentice

Ugh.  I still have a couple of 6520s and they're already up to the 7000s.  Just can't stay ahead of the game.  :p

@Ashu001, hahaha. Actually, I bought a hard plastic keyboard instead of one of the rollup ones Joe describes, so it's not even that (and it is a pain to carry around). It's the little things. Sometimes the keyboard randomly unsyncs for no reason, sometimes the app I'm trying to use doesn't support it. Sometimes the device has trouble switching between keystrokes and me using the touchscreen. It all adds to something I don't really want to work on.

Ninja

I remember when the mobile strategy was when they let you borrow the one laptop in the office. You had that option. That was the plan.

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@joe-most firms just jump into mobility.
Ninja

@ Seasono! That's very interestingly defined. But those who sticked to their laptops 15 hours a day are exception.

Ninja

seano2577, for me zoom-in features covers that. May be that's the reason why I chose a smartphone with 5.5 inch screen.

Ninja
@waqas-absolutely!those tabs r there today!
Ninja

I think I'm about 90 seconds behind on this broadcast.  :/  Oh, well.

waqas definitely mouse over pad.

Ninja

"majority of companies don't really have a mobility strategy"

Well, no duh.  :p

2000 - mobile was the "next big thing" and then BUBBLE BURST

Ninja
@rich-thin field screens r cool!
Ninja

People still haven't forgotten the Windows OS and if they see it on tablets with minor modifications, may be it can be a great selling point for Dell and other hardware manufacturers using Windows OS. Having a mouse-used interface would be great.

Ninja

Big section on the Cloud and mobility in the New York Times recently

Ninja

Regarding smartphones vs tablets - We are all living in a three device world right now.  Phones are great for mobie features and cloud based apps - but if you get document it is very difficult to view it on a smartphone - so you use a tablet - but if you want to edit that document you have to go to your PC.

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Joe, most of the tablets have a good battery power back up
Ninja

@Dave: I could see that getting annoying, though, unless you can separate the keyboards.

That's right. How long have we been discussing mobility strategy? :/ Who remembers? It feels like forever. :D

Hi All, sorry I'm late

Ninja
@zerox-r u missing the tap tap tap sound?
Ninja

@Joe- My daughter is at camp and discovered "Fruit by the Foot" yesterday. I wonder if we can have keyboards that work that way. You put a bunch together and you roll them out at conference tables and everyone's got one.

Strategist

fruit  roll-up -- funny

Ninja

That's the area where I hit a snag when it comes to my current tablet (which is an Asus). I bought a keyboard for it, and it has a good amount of horsepower... so theoretically there's no reason I can't sit down on it and do the same kind of work I do on my desktop. For some reason, though, it just... never seems to work quite right. I'd love to try something that does.

Ninja

With full application access to Windows 7 or 8.1 applications and with simplified management through your existing SCCM or KACE console - Dell Venue Pro tablets provide the functionality you need without the headaches of consumer tablets.

Apprentice

@zerox:  The Dell Venue 8 Pro really does work, and the size is great for portability.  One even can use the regular Windows Desktop with it, using normal-sized fingers.

Apprentice

10 hours?  That's impressive.

tablets are great for looking at home furnishings, however

Ninja

@Dave: Now I want a Fruit Roll-up.  :p

seano2577, with the smartness of the smartphones these days, I don't find the need to use tablets.

Ninja

@Hospice - we are mostly talking about tablets in general, but mostly Windows-based tablets. Of course, our expertise is with Dell tablets.

Apprentice

@Bhori: Chrome is working well for me.

@[email protected] Ha! But the garbage bag is so stylish. :)

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Bhori, try with either chrome or FF
Ninja

interesing observation

Ninja

@David: Use other email services on their own webhosts, or encrypted email services that don't have such oppressive TOS.

But honestly, most lawyers don't give a darn about these quibbles, and the issue hasn't -- to my knowledge, anyway -- been brought before a State Bar.

The Dell Venue Pro series is a new class of tablets desgned for business use.

 

Apprentice

What sort of battery life are people getting with tablets in the enterprise. I always find that I run out of juice no matter whatever devices I use. Anyone have any luck?

 

Strategist

We are in a three device situation, but I think we can get it down to 2. My phone is so big and powerful I've noticed i've stopped using my tablet for much but watching video.

Strategist

tablets are great for sales (not tables, sorry)

Ninja

The problem is that many cosumer tablets require the business to use separate management systems, separate security tools to implement them for there business.  More importantly getting applications on to these devices can be very costly.

Apprentice

tables are great for sales --

Ninja

@Rich - we have seen a lot of field sales folks using a thin screen protector, which eliminates the ability to see the screen from their side or back angle of the tablet. That may be better than a grocery bag... ;)

Apprentice
I would love it if I had a machine which gives me a full 24 hour service on one solitary charge.
Ninja

firefox also works

Ninja

@Joe- I might have to try the rollup. I didn't like earlier versions, but there are new generaitons.

Strategist

@Bhori: I'm also using Chrome and it's working well. Can't explain.

Strategist

Chrome works perfect, in case you are experiencing problems with your browser.

Tablets are fantastic devices - light, easy to carry, always on, always awake with GPS and other mobile features.

Apprentice

@Bhori- No, and i'm sorry. Did you, by any chance, try to push past the 33 second mark manually?

Strategist

What tablets are we talking about? What about Microsoft's Surface Pro?

Strategist

@ashu and others:  Thanks for the posting info., always nice to know it's just not me ...  :)

Apprentice

@David: Great investment I made: a rubber rollup Bluetooth keyboard, about $20 at Brookstone. I prop up my phone, whip out this little roll-up thing, and type away.

They even sell these laser virtual keyboards now where it projects a keyboard onto a surface and you type literally on the desk/table/whatever surface.

@sferguson: Chrome

Ninja

@Joe- I get that, but what would lawyers have to do instead?

Strategist
Bhofi, try with a different browser
Ninja

Yes, I believe tablets will become the primary device for many people.

@joe-hipaa really has skme good pointers for all industries today.
Ninja

@Rich- Fair enough. I wouldn't know the details of the requirements.

Strategist

@Bhori: Mine is working fine. What browser are you using?

 

Strategist

If you are pushing email/calendar and contacts to the native email app on that phone then the Facebook sync will capture those and upload them to Facebook - major loss of corporate data.  Dell's EMM solution stops his by providing access to contacts, email and calendar only in the container.  No cut and paste capability or sync capability allowed.

Apprentice

The Dell Venue tablets look great. I saw another show on them somewhere else, and they look like they're reall designed for usability... which, anyone can say. When you're dealing with someone like Dell, though, you also know you're getting dependable hardware.

Ninja

Video stops at 00:33 everytime even after refresh. Is anyone else facing the same problem?

Ninja

BTW, there's a great YouTube series I came across today on HIPAA compliance -- which really should be watched by everybody regardless of industry because they're full of good data privacy compliance tips in general.

Is FIPS level security for real today?when u can easily get more personal identifiers of social networks today?
Ninja

Every time I wake up my phone it ask me to sync my contacts.

Apprentice

@Dave, right, I agree with you. The issue is not ruling something out because it comes with risks (then everything would be out). It's risk-vs-reward. As far as your own agency goes, for mobile, the question is can you mitigate that risk enough to make it worth the reward? It's not just the initial risk/reward, it's what you can do to affect it.

Ninja

@David: Depends on what industry he's in.

Interestingly, there has been a minor debate going on the legal sector as to whether lawyers can ethically confer with clients via Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, and the like, because of the TOS you agree to when you use the service.

Facebok is a great example of why you need a container.

Apprentice

It's good that people are changing their view about tablets in the enterprise. 

@michael-yes.it happens when the site gets overloaded.
Ninja

To me, it is all about the tiny (or non-existent) keyboards.

Strategist
Michael, the same thing happened here also
Ninja

Containers could be viewed as a new trick to hack.  But with FIPS level security - they are the futue of supporting corporate content on personal devices

Apprentice

@Michael, oh, thanks. No problems here yet :)

Ninja
There is no doubt that dell makes the best laptops on the market today.i love the fact that they r so rugged.
Ninja

@Rich- I agree with you, but doesn't Facebook put you at some compliance risks?

Strategist

I think Mr. Wisdom is right to say that just because MDM is not 'enough', doesn't mean you shouldn't use it. You need to layer something on top of it, and, at the end of the day, you have to keep an eye on your mobile solution yourself. You can't just expect a system to do it for you... but that doesn't mean you shouldn't have a system in place.

Ninja

Note to moderators:  I sometimes find that the comment box responds, when trying to post, that a subject is needed for the post (even tho there is no subject area).  Sometimes this goes away with a few post presses, other times, a refresh of the website is needed.

Apprentice
@sean-good to have u here!
Ninja

Sean Wisdom - many companies are still not using tablets even though the use cases are exceptional for changing enduser performance

 

Apprentice

@SF: Maybe it doesn't really matter. Great info so far...

Strategist

- create a taxonomy of users

Ninja

I like the container concept, but doesn't the container become something new to guard? Isn't the container just a new target to hack?

Strategist
Mobility is important because peoples are moving in fast manner
Ninja

Sean Wisdom - Most customers are still usng MDM and exposing their company to risk without even knowing it

 

Apprentice
Protection with tablets yes!
Apprentice

That is right.

Apprentice

Hey Sean Wisdom here - the title was designed to be disruptive butthere is truth there is well.

Apprentice

@Joe. Right. You can't afford to not participate in 'mobile' at this point. And there really are still people saying that they're scared to jump in - so this show is great to put someone like that at ease. You have to really put some people on it if you're going to do it. You can't 'just' jump in.

Ninja

The tablet behind them is the Dell Venue 8 Pro running Windows 8.1 :)

Apprentice

i know don't like it

Apprentice

@Rich: I think it's an actual Dell Venue tablet.

So what are the troubles people in the audience are having with mobility? Security? Netowrking? Making it cost effective?

 

Strategist

Is it really a live streaming?

Strategist

oh no...resources again?

Ninja

Same thing in medicine.  "We can't perform this procedure on you unless you sign this."  What are you going to do?  Not sign it?

Lot of smart folks may not kindly take to the idea that verything one ws iswrong.
Ninja

Stalled, but going again!

Apprentice

I've had a hell of a time connecting my venue 8 Pro to my wd My Cloud.

Apprentice

security is number 1 concern?

Ninja

I HOPE IT IS WATER

Apprentice

@ Rich: They have locked myths in those bottles

Ninja

we've been talking about Mobility since 2000

Ninja

@zerox: At the same time, as was pointed out to me at a recent conference, how powerful is it if you're a salesman on the road, on your way to meet a client, and you get a mobile alert about open support tickets that client has.

The live chat is making sound when someone post a comment...it interrupt the presenttion!!!!

Apprentice

@Ashish, I always go against all the myths. :D

Thanks all

Hear to answers as we go along

Apprentice

@ Ashu: Myth that Sara would be wearing black, blue or red :)

Ninja
@michael-change is the only constant in life.
Ninja
Audio and video are high quality
Ninja

@ Gigi3: So has Gigi1 & Gigi2 obsolete :)

Ninja

I think this might be a bit of hard sell. When it comes to mobile, there's a pretty high signal-to-noise ratio, and I'm not sure how much there is to say that hasn't been said already. That being said, it's a changing marketplace, and I'm ready to be sold.

Ninja

@SF: You can say that again!

Strategist

Actually been considering getting a Dell Venue Pro.

@susan-which myth r we planning to break today?the myth-busters!
Ninja

@HH, and elegant. :) 

Video looks good!

 

Moderator

good sound, good video

Ninja

HH: That's our lovely Sara! :D Doesn't she look pretty? 

Hi, guys.  Took a couple of minutes, but I'm here.  :)

here we go... Audio/Video is good

Ninja

If that doesn't work, we know some browsers and security combos don't go well together. Try another browser.

Strategist

Hi all - happy to have you chatting and watching with us today! :) I'm Katie, and I work for Dell around tablets in commercial business.

Apprentice
@rich-please. ..tablets need more than a theme song now.how abt a ringtone?
Ninja
David. There is only gigi3 and no chances for gigi1 and gigi2
Ninja

all systems go.

Apprentice

The video has started. If you don't have video yet, refresh your browser.

Strategist

I like the title of the talk -- want to hear the thesis

Ninja

It's about time we talked about these misconceptions and myths. :)

 

more pictures? why, Rich?

Ninja

If this is your first IWeek live event, welcome. If it is not your first, welcome back. Everyone should feel free to ask questions, join int he chat, and mix it up. We're a friendly bunch.

Strategist
@020-is that ur phone number???just kiddin..
Ninja

@bhori - Agreed.  Change is difficult.  Again, I like the device and think it will solve more 90% need.

Apprentice

So I believe what is happening is that the guest and host are actually joining us in the chat and that this is pre-recorded. My apologies if I'm wrong. But if our guest is int he chat room, please let us know what your ID is. Thanks.

Strategist

About there!

 

Apprentice

No, it's a print

Apprentice

@ michael: Agreed, but I think many will change the way they interact with their device. Still remember, that there were some who were not happy with desktop to laptop transition at first.

Ninja

We can also guess Sara's wig color. Or if anyone wants, they can guess what I'm wearing. :)

Strategist

This should be an interesting broadcase.

Apprentice

I am guessing Sara is wearing blue dress today

Apprentice

Now it is working...initially received a message stating 'Subject' needed in Post

Apprentice

Hello, apprentices....

Strategist

(said in the voice of HAL)

Ninja

Live Chat seems to be a little glitchy today

Apprentice

@david: I second that!

Strategist

Hi Gigi3. i hope to see Gigi1 and Gigi2 here as well. :)

Strategist

It all depends on what one does with a notebook.  I think its a step up in funcationality from an tablet, but not a full fledged notebook replacement - but enough for most

Apprentice
Another few minutes to go
Ninja

Just to be contraian, i suspect some of the things I've been told about mobile is correct. For isntance, i bet I can walk around with it. :)

Strategist

as I keep reding more and more all other web - 

Surface Pro 3 not a notebook replacement to DIYers who want inside

Ninja

@H_H: I guess Black

Ninja

Hi everyone. Nice to see a big crowd.

Strategist

Who can guess the color of the host's (Sara) dress?

Strategist

The Microsoft Devices look rather cool, in commercials and playing at the store, but can't actually tell until you work with it for some time.  Would love to get my hands on one, as well.

Apprentice

yes, but for me option to open up device and do my own upgrades it a must

Ninja

I have finally arrived.

Apprentice

@batye, well, I guess Microsoft's main selling point is the easse-of-connectivity between their mobile devices and Windows PCs and Xboxes. They still need to get the device in my hands first, though. That's the part they're having trouble with.

Ninja

@BHori, I see. So it's the opposite problem. Well, think of your morning coffee tomorrow!

Ninja

i sure hope not

Apprentice

as  most wanna fix/upgrade themself the mobile devices :)

Ninja

I think Microsoft shooting themself in the foot...

Ninja

Hi Zerox! Its 11:00PM here in Dubai zzzZ

Ninja

I just finish looking at https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface Pro 3 Teardown/26595

 

Ninja

Yeah, not long now. Fortunately it's 3PM here in Boston, so I'm all set with plenty of coffee in my system. Where's everybody else at? Still some morning jitters?

Ninja

Good day to you.

Apprentice
  • Tablets are not the right tools for business
  • MDM is all you need for BYOD
  • Mobility is too risky for highly regulated organizations
  • Mobile applications are too costly to deliver ROI

Are we going to break above myths in next hour?

Ninja

Coming up in a little bit--

Apprentice

Hi Sboros, PGoldberg! 

Ninja

good afternoon

 

Apprentice

@ Rich: LOL! This far too efficient

Ninja

that's a great pic

Apprentice

Looking forward to participate in the show

Ninja
Another 1 and 3/4 hours to go for this interesting section
Ninja
Lots of early birds
Ninja

Hey, everybody. I see some familiar faces down there. I'll see everyone in a couple of hours for the show!

Ninja

Hello everyone..just testing to see if all goes well :)

Ninja

@sferguson10001: Everything You've Been Told About Mobility Is Wrong

Strategist

@Hospice: Lied in what way?

Strategist

So we have been lied to all the time about mobility?

Strategist

Hi everyone: Looking forward to the chat in a few hours with Sean. Get your questions ready.

Strategist
Happy Tuesday
Apprentice

good day to all!

Apprentice

Hi All,

Interesting topic

Apprentice

Look forward to the program--

Apprentice

looking forward to this.

 

Apprentice

Hello, good day!

Apprentice

good morning all

Apprentice

Greetings and felicitations all!

Apprentice

Hello everybody!

Apprentice

I wonder if anything I was thinking about Mobility is correct.

Apprentice
Another few hours to go for this interesting section
Ninja

Hello everyone! Expecting a great show asusal.

Ninja

Hope this will be an intresting section

Ninja

see you on Tuesday, June 24, at 3:00 p.m. EDT

Ninja

should be interesting show

Ninja

as Sara always have interesting points/ideas

Ninja


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