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Susan Fourtan�,
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6/9/2014 | 3:59:59 AM

Re: Building on a Rep

Alison,

"Not saying it won't happen, just that it'd be awful if (or when) it does."

Yes, I know what you mean. What I wonder is if, for example, today's kids, who are growing up in a world with close to little privacy, will react as we do when the day comes. I think they won't.

Then, the rest of us will have two options: Adapt, or move to a cave in the nearest forest. :D (some humor is necessary because I don't believe we can stop what it's to come)

-Susan

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batye,
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6/4/2014 | 5:09:57 PM

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same with my internet provider they want me to use they hardware...

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Alison_Diana,
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6/4/2014 | 3:34:46 PM

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I really hope the day never comes that people are so unconcerned about their right to personal, private information that they cede all control to companies that then turn around and sell that data to other businesses. It would be a sad world. Not saying it won't happen, just that it'd be awful if (or when) it does.

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Alison_Diana,
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6/4/2014 | 3:33:23 PM

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I wonder what would happen if you did replace their hardware, @batye? Surprised that they don't want you to do it. My cable company would love me to change their hardware or cables out because then they wouldn't have to support me whenever there's a performance problem (which, 9 times out of 10, is because of their external equipment).

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Susan Fourtan�,
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6/4/2014 | 3:22:53 PM

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Alison,

"But it could if you use the fact that you're at home as an alibi to a crime -- and the police subpoena (or hack) into your IoT records to demonstrate that none of your appliances were active at the time of the crime."

That's an interesting thought and a great idea for a crime story. :D Your appliances could be programmed to be active even if you are not at home.

"If we don't have more than a reasonable expectation of privacy in our own homes, then where?"

Well, yes, but then again if we add the data collected by wearables to the data collected by the IoT there is no much privacy left. This is going to become so common that no one is going to worry about it anymore.

-Susan

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batye,
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6/2/2014 | 11:16:14 AM

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the sad reality I live in small city have only one Co. offering Cable internet, I'm on my fourth modem... but they do not want replace cables inside... they still want me to use they cables... and do not allow me to run my own high quality cables... and purchase my own better cable modem...

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Alison_Diana,
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6/2/2014 | 9:43:57 AM

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That's bad, @batye! I have wondered about that. We have Internet via our cable company. I pay for the highest speed and use their router, solely so I can call them whenever there's a problem! Every time I call about a performane issue, they blame me for using several devices simultaneously -- we have several wireless computers, phones, tablets, TV, etc., although not all are typically connected at one time. I can only imagine what would happen if we added thermostat, alarm, appliances, etc., to the mix!

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Alison_Diana,
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6/2/2014 | 9:41:10 AM

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People keep saying consumers will get used to less privacy. I sincerely hope that's not the case. Just because something becomes standard doesn't mean it's right and it's one reason I back the efforts of non-profits that fight for individual privacy. Does it really matter whether Apple, Google, or some other company knows how often we open the fridge? Perhaps not. But it could if you use the fact that you're at home as an alibi to a crime -- and the police subpoena (or hack) into your IoT records to demonstrate that none of your appliances were active at the time of the crime. Far-fetched? I don't think so. If we don't have more than a reasonable expectation of privacy in our own homes, then where?

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batye,
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6/2/2014 | 2:41:06 AM

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same here... please do share... in my case I got nest... but still have to send my wife to change temperature manualy on the nest... as it keep getting lost connection with my home router...

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Susan Fourtan�,
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6/1/2014 | 7:07:17 AM

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Alison,

"I still believe privacy is a huge hurdle for the home automation market but, as we've seen with apps, not everyone's concerned with that."

As automation evolves and the IoT becomes more common security is also going to improve.

Another thing that could happen is that everybody gets use the new way of living with less privacy if the collection of data results in benefits for the consumers.

And, at some point, all this is going to be simply normal, just as it happened with everything else that people were worried about before.

-Susan

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