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Bob O
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12/1/2011 | 4:02:32 PM
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It is being reported by The Verge that well known hacker Chpwn tweeted today that versions at least as recent as iPhone OS 3.1.3 contained references to Carrier IQ and later confirmed it's in all versions of iOS, including iOS 5.
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12/1/2011 | 4:07:09 PM
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Except, it had been found in iOS devices... it isn't on all Android or other devices... Did you read the whole blog post?
DavidMichael
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12/1/2011 | 4:15:22 PM
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So the app is getting all the keystrokes - what is it doing with this data, that's the question.
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12/1/2011 | 4:43:40 PM
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From the Verge updated: Apple has added some form of Carrier IQ software to all versions of iOS, including iOS 5. However, the good news is that it does not appear to actually send any information so long as a setting called DiagnosticsAllowed is set to off, which is the default. Finally, the local logs on iOS seem to store much less information than what has been seen on Android, limited to some call activity and location (if enabled), but not any text from the web browser, SMS, or anywhere else. We'll let you know when more details arise.
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12/1/2011 | 5:03:42 PM
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That is only the first question. The next question is Who will they be sharing it with, and Will the originator of the data even be notified? We all know that law enforcement can, without a warrant and without any notification to the target, obtain all your email contacts and who you've been sending and receiving emails to along with all of your internet searches from Google, who btw is more than willing to provide the information when requested.

What their original intentions are in collecting this data, unless they are outright selling it, are almost a secondary matter.

The police have the capability to use mobile cell phone towers to identify all cell phones within range, and to spoof the real towers to intercept all messages from all phones in range. They are currently testing this out in Britain. The argument I hear is "if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about", but this is so short-sighted. How about the UC Davis protesters? How secure do the people standing around with their cell phones feel if the police can capture the identity of every cell phone in range and match it up with the IQCarrier data? What if a couple of those police are upset at some of those students because they feel they were made into a fool? Police corruption is not just something in movies.

I am so pleased that the EFF got involved in this. All of us as citizens need to be aware of privacy issues. The reason we have our constitutional rights is so people can have a fighting chance to expose and protect ourselves against corruption in our police departments and government. We need to stop just this kind of incursion, even if their reason for collecting the data is supposed to help us.
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12/1/2011 | 5:24:36 PM
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Well all that fear mongering and gloating over the "perfect and not being spyed upon" iphone is out the window, eh? This article reads like an ad for the iphone and makes one wonder what the motivation might be to write something of this nature?
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12/1/2011 | 5:58:57 PM
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Mr. Feldman,, please do some research and find out if Eckhart's allegation is true before you add to all the hype. His video looks like Logcat in Eclipse when USB debugging is enabled on the phone. The data goes over the usb cable to your computer only, where you can view it for debugging purposes. I just did it myself and saw sms messages, keystrokes, etc. This is normal. I'd like to see proof that the data is actually getting logged by CarrierIQ on the phone. -David, developer.
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12/2/2011 | 12:58:49 AM
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This is not a correct representation:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...
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12/2/2011 | 12:59:14 AM
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NotTellinYou
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12/2/2011 | 1:00:22 AM
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This is not correct. The only iOS 5 device that still includes this software is the iPhone 4 and will be removed in an update. In any case the software only sends the data if the user opts in.
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